Radiant Acoustics Clarity 6.2 - Purifi based compact speaker

[harkpabst]

I didn´t experience them myself but there´s an extended capacitor test/review online where the XPP is described as ´the one to avoid when possible´. This is coming from a very experienced crossover builder.

Your point is that "someone on the Internet" said these caps are bad? Come on, you cannot be serious ...

Playing at ´normal´ listening level didn´t do the job (+50h). Only after playing ´bass excursion music´ for more then 1 hour at high level the midrange changed from lean (= not low enough compared to all my other speakers) to a completely normal level.

Radiant Acoustics and Purifi don't agree with you here.

I won't comment, maybe I just don't know what I'm missing, leaving out this procedure.

 

[Ktacos]

I didn´t experience them myself but there´s an extended capacitor test/review online where the XPP is described as ´the one to avoid when possible´. This is coming from a very experienced crossover builder.

Actual experienced builders know that cap differences are bunk, have been debunked and there's even a write up here someone did to show this. Listen to the science, not some "experienced crossover builder".

 

[dfuller]

Actual experienced builders know that cap differences are bunk, have been debunked and there's even a write up here someone did to show this. Listen to the science, not some "experienced crossover builder".

Mostly bunk. The writeup shows nonpolar electrolytics to have *way* higher distortion than any film cap... But all film caps are basically identical.

 

[Head_Unit]

Here it is next to a similarly sized and similarly priced, passive 2-way bookshelf from Revel, the M126Be:

Ah thanks. I do see the low frequency distortion is much less, so more whopping bass output from a small speaker. Up in the midrange (my obsession is "can I crank up guitar heavy hard rock/metal without a hash of midrange distortion") it seems perhaps somewhat better but not like way way less...though I suspect what I think of as "hash" is not just THD but maybe more IMD. Or ABCDEFG...

 

[Vos]

Your point is that "someone on the Internet" said these caps are bad? Come on, you cannot be serious ...


Radiant Acoustics and Purifi don't agree with you here.

I won't comment, maybe I just don't know what I'm missing, leaving out this procedure.

Like I said not my experience so I can´t comment but only referring to Humble Homemade HiFi.

Before the break-in I also wrote to Purifi and got the same answer: ´24h break-in, afterwards no change´
So I didn't give the break-in any thought but after 1,5 months normal listening my speakers still sounded lean in the midrange. I thought it was something in the system but when changing only the speakers (luckely I have 3 other pairs) the Purifi was always the most lean sounding (always using the same track so very easy to compare).
I started to think this must be the Purifi sound and I had to accept it like it was.
One weekend I tried the extended break-in method, 2 x 2h repeating ´bass excursion (Spotify)´track at high volume (still save for the drivers of course but well above listening volume) with some cooling down inbetween for the amp.
I left the room while doing so not expecting much. The first day after 2h I already noticed already a difference but I decided to repeat the procedure the next day. After these +/- 4h in total I was 100% sure the mids sounded lower (same track) so I compared it again to my other speakers and could confirm the same tonality now.
Maybe you could use an even higher volume and shorten the time but I didn´t want to risk any damage to the speakers + amp.
(now 2 weeks after the break-in the tonality stayed the same so I don´t feel the need to repait this, don´t think there will be much more change).

Maybe it´s more important here because we are breaking in actually 3 drivers who work together, maybe the Purifi suspension or spider are stiffer or a combination....I don´t know.

One thing is sure, watching the cones move/workout with this method you can never imitate with normal listening.

 

[Ktacos]

Like I said not my experience so I can´t comment but only referring to Humble Homemade HiFi.

I'm familiar with that site and the builds there, I ultimately found the info there to be a little too snake oily.

The first day after

Different day, different mental state. Sigh...

 

[Vos]

I'm familiar with that site and the builds there, I ultimately found the info there to be a little too snake oily.


Different day, different mental state. Sigh...

Whatever, like I don´t know this
Mental state is very important and changes many small perceptions but has nothing to do with the tonality change here and to be 100% sure I did the comparison again with my other speakers before and after. But you don´t believe all this, fine

 

[juicy_clams]

Whatever, like I don´t know this
Mental state is very important and changes many small perceptions but has nothing to do with the tonality change here and to be 100% sure I did the comparison again with my other speakers before and after. But you don´t believe all this, fine

You're on "audiosciencereview" so you sort of need to back what you say up with science. Did you measure the before and after, for example?

 

[Vos]

You're on "audiosciencereview" so you sort of need to back what you say up with science. Did you measure the before and after, for example?

I can´t do measurements, I´m not trying to prove anything or convince anyone, only sharing my experiences.

 

[yys310]

Whatever, like I don´t know this
Mental state is very important and changes many small perceptions but has nothing to do with the tonality change here and to be 100% sure I did the comparison again with my other speakers before and after. But you don´t believe all this, fine

Why would you expect we to trust you and the nameless "experienced crossover builder" if you have no data to back it up?
Designer for Clarity 6.2 also select the crossover component by listening test (and measurement).
Not only they're satisfied with the outcome but also users here to share the sound from Clarity 6.2

I can´t do measurements, I´m not trying to prove anything or convince anyone, only sharing my experiences.

You've mentioned about the change in tonality. Can't you measure the frequency response of it?

 

[Vos]

Why would you expect we to trust you and the nameless "experienced crossover builder" if you have no data to back it up?
Designer for Clarity 6.2 also select the crossover component by listening test (and measurement).
Not only they're satisfied with the outcome but also users here to share the sound from Clarity 6.2

You've mentioned about the change in tonality. Can't you measure the frequency response of it?

Please read all my comments, I did already mentioned the website for the capacitors review.

I don´t expect you or anyone to trust me, I only share my experiences.
It worked for me and I´m happy, so whatever your conclusion may be that´s fine with me

PS I don´t have the equipment to do measurements.

 

[Ropeburn]

@henz Reddit usually has the most stupid and annoying advertising that everyone hates. I'm not sure you want your (perfectly reasonable) advertisement in that questionable company.

 

[Rkosak]

My beauties arrived today. I've just setup them on my (own design) stands and about first 20 minutes of playback…
And I can say VERY VERY GOOOOD!
I'll write a more detailed review here later, but I already know that they're staying. I'm sending a few pictures. I think they'll fit in well with my stands. What do you think?

 

[JohnnyNG]

Gorgeous all around! Awesome stands!

 

[henz]

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@henz Reddit usually has the most stupid and annoying advertising that everyone hates. I'm not sure you want your (perfectly reasonable) advertisement in that questionable company.

I'll check up with my marketing manager! We are trying stuff out to see what works...

 

[Puddingbuks]

My beauties arrived today. I've just setup them on my (own design) stands and about first 20 minutes of playback…
And I can say VERY VERY GOOOOD!
I'll write a more detailed review here later, but I already know that they're staying. I'm sending a few pictures. I think they'll fit in well with my stands. What do you think?

Nice setup, but I would sell everything and buy a pair of Genelec 8361, Neumann KH420, Dutch & Dutch 8c or something in that range, upgrade the room acoustics and use all the cash that is left for something else. Why such expensive gear that makes so little difference? Dac, streamer, amp, power conditioner?

I counted roughly 35k on equipment on speakers that cost 4k.

 

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[Cammy]

Except the drivers I can´t see anything ´exquisite´, just a basic adequate build. Or do I miss something? (the threaded screws are nice )

It's sarcastic

 

[Vos]

It's sarcastic

It seems some of us are carried away a little by their own enthusiasm and the marketing machine. Looks like 21mm mdf, cheap cabling, simple bracing, 1 sheet of Basotect (actually not an expensive material), edges inside nowhere rounded of, low end Bennic caps..
Again, the build is decent and adequate for the job but I´m missing the ´exquisite´ part here.

 

[Cammy]

It seems some of us are carried away a little by their own enthusiasm and the marketing machine. Looks like 21mm mdf, cheap cabling, simple bracing, 1 sheet of Basotect (actually not an expensive material), edges inside nowhere rounded of, low end Bennic caps..
Again, the build is decent and adequate for the job but I´m missing the ´exquisite´ part here.

There isn't anything ´exquisite´ about it, that was the joke