Prices of Very Large Flat TVs are Falling Fast

[SIY]

Viewing angle isn't an issue, I live alone and have a single easy chair. 65" is the biggest I can fit in the room and keep my hifi.

 

[Oddball]

OLED is just different. It is difficult to say if better than mini LED as both excel in different areas, so it will be down to preferences and use case. For me it was an easy decision as LG 97" (G2 or G4) are way to expensive for what they offer, and mini LEDs in that size are priced to EUR 5K or lower.

I would not go back to less than 98" and hope that 115" mini LED drops below it current price of EUR 16K. Remember when my 88" Samsung was EUR 15K back in 2015. So definitively the big screens are more affordable and much better performing than in the past.

 

[Timcognito]

What am I missing?

Depends on the room just like audio. How bright, how for away one sits, viewing angle, color rendering, etc

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[Chromatischism]

The 77" Sony OLED I picked up is the largest I can make work here in this small room and I hope it lasts as long as my Plasma. That is now running flawlessly at my Dad's place.

 

[EJ3]

The same time it seem’s to get harder and harder to find small TV sets of some good quality. For my needs a 32” screen is absolutely fine. But I’m reduced to just 1 single model within the Philips portfolio for instance.

I went with 40" for a bit more choice.

 

[amirm]

The availability of 'large' TVs caused me to retire my projector.

I just looked at this option but nothing close to our screen size exists at reasonable prices (12 foot wide). But we are getting close.

 

[JSmith]

What am I missing?

Trying to compare and evaluate PQ in a very bright store without having any idea of what settings have been applied either is not a good idea.

As we often buy audio products based on testing here, I would recommend the same for TV's (RTings, HDTV Test etc.)... or at least for a shortlist.


JSmith

 

[Petrushka]

I never see the Home Screen on my TV. It just defaults to HDMI and the Roku.

 

[Old_School_Brad]

You're getting a much larger picture, at high quality, for the same power consumption as an old 42" plasma. A picture that big in plasma days would have gobbled far more power.

So it does count as technological progress. Environmentally it's the same story as touting the 'fuel efficiency' of modern SUVs.

That was exactly my point. I especially don’t see the need for these oversized TVs -our homes aren’t getting any bigger. In fact, more and more people, as far as I know, are living in apartments.

In any case, sitting 2-4 m. from the 46" in our main living room is perfectly fine. I wouldn't want the picture to be twice the size.

 

[Old_School_Brad]

Dumb question- people tell me (always a bad way to start!) that OLEDs are superior to QLED. I went to Costco to look at a few and damned if I could tell the difference. What am I missing?

The TVs on display are set to "bragging mode" -maxed-out settings that exaggerate brightness and colors.

To me, QLED looks fantastic, and I don’t see a huge difference compared to OLED. I view TVs a bit like DACs; once you reach a certain quality level, it mostly comes down to features and design. High-quality models from either technology offer such impressive picture quality that most people would be happy with either option.

 

[JSmith]

OLED will be better in a HT or dark room environment. QLED won't be as good in that light level.

QLED will be much better in a high ambient light environment though as they have a higher peak brightness.

All locally dimmed LED based TV's will have some level of blooming... how much depends on the number of dimming zones compared to actual pixels. OLED's will not have this issue as they turn off individual pixels, i.e. perfect blacks.

OLED's will have some degree of posterisation... the higher end models, not much at all. But QLED can also.

OLED's will suffer from some ABL. QLED's, no.

So as is often the case with electronic devices, pick what best suits your needs case.


JSmith

 

[Vovgan]

I can't go any bigger (75" diagonal now) and still get the TV between the speakers (72" tall) without getting a bigger room (ain't gonna happen) or turning this room 90 degrees (also ain't gonna happen)

Well, maybe I could squeeze an 85 in there (won't happen until this one blows up)

Just fyi, I recently upgraded to 83” tv from 77 inches and I too was worried about the increased distance between speakers. No problem at all. My listening/viewing distance is 10 feet or slightly less. I remember I had the same worry when I was upgrading from 55” to 65”, and then from 65 to 77
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But with 83” tv I slightly overlap the bodies of my speakers with it.

 

[Old_School_Brad]

Just fyi, I recently upgraded to 83” tv from 77 inches and I too was worried about the increased distance between speakers. No problem at all. My listening/viewing distance is 10 feet or slightly less. I remember I had the same worry when I was upgrading from 55” to 65”, and then from 65 to 77
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But with 83” tv I slightly overlap the bodies of my speakers with it.

This makes your speakers seem undersized -perhaps it's a sign to upgrade?

 

[Timmy]

I recently upgraded to 83” tv from 77 inches

Btw ... Wouldn’t that wobbling reflection image of your window / terrace door on the screen’s right hand side do as a fine example of harmonic distortion?

 

[napfkuchen]

Dumb question- people tell me (always a bad way to start!) that OLEDs are superior to QLED. I went to Costco to look at a few and damned if I could tell the difference. What am I missing?

At the shop the surroundings are very bright. That's bad for OLED TVs because their peak brightness is typically lower than with LED tech and under these conditions the pixel perfect contrast cannot be noticed in comparison to many other TVs. On the other hand, if you watch tv during daytime OLED is not necessary for you. But as others already noted, the large viewing angles are definetely noticeable.
My last TV was a Sony with local dimming which was good regarding black levels although still not satisfactory once you have seen OLED black. Also the decrease in brightness depending especially on the vertical viewing angle was very annoying.

 

[SIY]

At the shop the surroundings are very bright. That's bad for OLED TVs because their peak brightness is typically lower than with LED tech and under these conditions the pixel perfect contrast cannot be noticed in comparison to many other TVs. On the other hand, if you watch tv during daytime OLED is not necessary for you. But as others already noted, the large viewing angles are definetely noticeable.
My last TV was a Sony with local dimming which was good regarding black levels although still not satisfactory once you have seen OLED black. Also the decrease in brightness depending especially on the vertical viewing angle was very annoying.

OK, this (and the articles people kindly linked to) convinced me that OLED is not a good choice for me. I don't use a darkened room and I watch solo.

Many thanks!

 

[Vacceo]

Size aside, what has improved a lot are the electronics to adjust and upscale.

At more than 65 inches, the pixels per inch in 4k start to go low, yet content viewing is quite compensated.

 

[krabapple]

That was exactly my point. I especially don’t see the need for these oversized TVs -our homes aren’t getting any bigger. In fact, more and more people, as far as I know, are living in apartments.

Actually in America at least, the trend for a long time has been toward bigger homes housing fewer people in them.

In any case, sitting 2-4 m. from the 46" in our main living room is perfectly fine. I wouldn't want the picture to be twice the size.

The only 'requirement' for a given size is that the viewing distance be enough so that the screen resolution does not become visible as pixels.

 

[krabapple]

Has anyone studied the audible effect of reflections off of a big TV screen between a pair of speakers?

 

[NicolasGr]

What we really need is big TVs that comes with an acoustically absorbant panel that drops over them when not in use.

Yeah, that'll go flying off the shelves.

and that don't look ugly when not in use. Actually your solution is neat, a drop down curtain/screen with art would erase that huge 83" black slab on my wall.