Nice that even if it isn't perfect, tools like Google Translate can help us communicate with different cultures and languages.With google translate, you can read articles in any language.
Nice that even if it isn't perfect, tools like Google Translate can help us communicate with different cultures and languages.With google translate, you can read articles in any language.
Right decision, I agree.I don't trust anybody else but science data facts from trusty experts.
May be.
But at the same time, any country that has registered its first vaccine will inevitably be criticized by society.
Here's another interesting article, with public comments.
https://www.business-gazeta.ru/article/477596
Well, a COVID vaccine, in 2 years from now (if COVID still does some harm by then), why not ?
In general, I'm not against vaccines at all.
But a vaccine tested in a hurry with such big economic stake (which typically leads to serious shortcuts) ?
Not for me. (I'd even say: not for anyone)
That may perfectly harm many more people than the COVID itself.
You wrote above that you only trust facts.In particular Russia because hackers try to steal info in Canada and in the USA on vaccine developments.
Me too. I only trust facts, not political intrigues.I don't trust anybody else but science data facts from trusty experts.
You wrote above that you only trust facts.
Me too. I only trust facts, not political intrigues.
What hackers? Where did you see them?
Do you think there are no good specialists in Russia?
This conversation has already begun to flow in the wrong direction. I propose to end on this.
The death rate is too low for this to be true. Also, non-intuitively, more people dying from the disease may actually delay herd immunity because survivors could be immune and provide protection.
Here is a herd immunity calculator from five thirty eight to play around with.
What does this mean for New Zealand in the future, though? If the virus does become endemic in the rest of the world, should we simply erase NZ from the maps and pretend it doesn't exist?It was expected. What will matter is how we deal with it, whether our contact tracing and isolation (and peoples' buy-in to the restrictions) will contain it or whether we end up with it widespread in the community again. One interesting point is that one of the cases works at a frozen food shipping depot, handling imported frozen goods.
What does this mean for New Zealand in the future...?
...should we simply erase NZ from the maps and pretend it doesn't exist?
He seems to be much more optimistic nowadays, hope he is right....for the rich world, we should largely be able to end this thing by the end of 2021, and for the world at large by the end of 2022. That is only because of the scale of the innovation that’s taking place.
...it’s because of innovation that you don’t have to contemplate an even sadder statement, which is this thing will be raging for five years until natural immunity is our only hope.
The same way it's worked for hundreds of years. If, say, half the population is immunised, the virus reproduction rate is halved. If the reproduction rate is maintained below 1, the current epidemic will eventually subside. After that, the virus might vanish entirely, or it might linger and cause occasional minor outbreaks. If a vaccine is used diligently, the virus should in time be virtually eradicated. The effort required to achieve that depends largely on how effective a vaccine is and how long it lasts. A one-off injection with long-lasting effect requires less on-going effort than one that needs to be updated regularly. Look at the strategies and outcomes for various other diseases to get an idea of the possible futures for covid-19.I have yet to see any attempts at quantifying how it is that a vaccine is going to slow/stop community transmission rates.
Well you are all welcome to Sweden. Most of us survived this round, me my family and all my friends got it between feb - april.. yes many have died at the expense of not ruining the economy of the nation, right or wrong? Time will tell..
I'm very curious to see the numbers as well, Denmark and Norway had a similar approach as southern/central Europe.History is written by the survivors.
A good test would be whether Sweden's economy did (does) better than its immediate neighbors Norway, Finland and Denmark relative to the death toll. Can't find the 2Q data other than for Sweden yet. Sweden did better than Eurozone as a whole in 2Q but that is pulled down by the Southern Europe woes which were hit hard. Better comparison would be with similar and nearer countries.