Waveguides and even off axis response help a ton with monitors sounding decent in an untreated room, and getting a phantom center.
Now I want a subwoofer that I hopefully don't have to do a subwoofer crawl for, as I'd like something I can use as a stand for a TV, or maybe two that I can use as a stand for speakers... Don't want to discover that the best place for subwoofers is all over the place.
Two or more typical subwoofers in ideal locations would be better for even bass, but I'd like to see if there is something that isn't typical.
Here are a few things I've found, though the tradeoffs seems to be extreme prices, or "PA" stuff that doesn't go very low, just loud:
-Genelec W371 goes really low and controls the dispersion by using a second woofer in the rear to cancel some of the radiation. $18k, two recommended, used as stands.
-QSC KS212C doesn't go very low looking at the specs, but gets rid of 15dB of rear radiation. $1.6k, much more affordable and I'd likely put it under the TV if it didn't shake too much.
-Fulcrum Acoustic 18" has an F10 of 30hz, and has 10dB of rear output reduction, probably using vents like the Dutch&Dutch 8C since it only has one driver.
Anything I'm missing? Are there open baffle woofers that help with room issues? Maybe some massive thing with four opposing 18" woofers could overcome room issues by being like 4 woofers in slightly different locations?
Now I want a subwoofer that I hopefully don't have to do a subwoofer crawl for, as I'd like something I can use as a stand for a TV, or maybe two that I can use as a stand for speakers... Don't want to discover that the best place for subwoofers is all over the place.
Two or more typical subwoofers in ideal locations would be better for even bass, but I'd like to see if there is something that isn't typical.
Here are a few things I've found, though the tradeoffs seems to be extreme prices, or "PA" stuff that doesn't go very low, just loud:
-Genelec W371 goes really low and controls the dispersion by using a second woofer in the rear to cancel some of the radiation. $18k, two recommended, used as stands.
-QSC KS212C doesn't go very low looking at the specs, but gets rid of 15dB of rear radiation. $1.6k, much more affordable and I'd likely put it under the TV if it didn't shake too much.
-Fulcrum Acoustic 18" has an F10 of 30hz, and has 10dB of rear output reduction, probably using vents like the Dutch&Dutch 8C since it only has one driver.
Anything I'm missing? Are there open baffle woofers that help with room issues? Maybe some massive thing with four opposing 18" woofers could overcome room issues by being like 4 woofers in slightly different locations?