Can one of you gurus rescue me from my brain

[BigMiIke]

It seems pretty simple. I have an iPad that is capable of playing high resolution, audio 192.

I would like to get that audio into my Onkyo 9.2 avr.

I bought an Apple usb - c adapter with hdmi & usb out .

I ran it to my avr - it’s not showing input 192.
It says output 2.1,( because I turned off Atmos )

How can I do this ?
What do I need ?
Is it possible?

Do I need a DAC ? iPad to DAC to receiver ? Is that potentially redundant?

I have an Apple TV but that caps @‘48
Qobuz app sounds great caps @ 96

Any help would be appreciated

 

[krabapple]

'output 2.1' tells nothing about the sample rate

And how much 192kHz/24 content are you realistically going to be able to store on your iPad?

Anyway, none of those number reductions are likely to matter.

 

[antcollinet]

It seems pretty simple. I have an iPad that is capable of playing high resolution, audio 192.

I would like to get that audio into my Onkyo 9.2 avr.

I bought an Apple usb - c adapter with hdmi & usb out .

I ran it to my avr - it’s not showing input 192.
It says output 2.1,( because I turned off Atmos )

How can I do this ?
What do I need ?
Is it possible?

Do I need a DAC ? iPad to DAC to receiver ? Is that potentially redundant?

I have an Apple TV but that caps @‘48
Qobuz app sounds great caps @ 96

Any help would be appreciated

Can the Onkyo do 192? Many video related audio systems are limited to 48. Which by the way - is enough for full transparency for human hearing. So I'd not worry about it.

 

[BigMiIke]

'output 2.1' tells nothing about the sample rate

And how much 192kHz/24 content are you realistically going to be able to store on your iPad?

Anyway, none of those number reductions are likely to matter.

Well Apple offers 192 streaming - when you click that audio option it actually says you’ll need a DAC to hear it.

My question is, the receiver already has a dac correct?

I’m just trying to hear 192 on my speakers .

Storage isn’t really an issue since it’s Apple Music stream.

And airplay does not play hi res

 

[BigMiIke]

Can the Onkyo do 192? Many video related audio systems are limited to 48. Which by the way - is enough for full transparency for human hearing. So I'd not worry about it.

Good question- Onkyo 797 trying to find that info is very niche

 

[krabapple]

Well Apple offers 192 streaming - when you click that audio option it actually says you’ll need a DAC to hear it.

OK, no storage problem then. But is the 'stream' actually 192 kHz in any meaningful way - as in, content with a bandwidth anywhere near 96 kHz, so it *requires* as 192kHz sample rate? And then there's the fact that you can't really hear anything above ~20kHz anyway

My question is, the receiver already has a dac correct?

I would hope so.

I’m just trying to hear 192 on my speakers .

Good luck with that. But I'm telling you, it's OK if it's downsampled to less than 192.

 

[sonitus mirus]

In the manual for your device, it specifically states on the front page under the asterisk:

"Supported sampling rates may vary depending on network environment. ALAC supported to 96 kHz"

https://assets.onkyo-av.com/spec-sheets/TX-NR797_US_2022-11-02-192953_gcei.pdf?v=1667417393

 

[BigMiIke]

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In the manual for your device, it specifically states on the front page under the asterisk:

"Supported sampling rates may vary depending on network environment. ALAC supported to 96 kHz"

https://assets.onkyo-av.com/spec-sheets/TX-NR797_US_2022-11-02-192953_gcei.pdf?v=1667417393

well thank you sir - damn .

So not sure what to do now

 

[Zek]

So not sure what to do now

Buy a usb DAC and connect it to the iPad and you will be able to play DSD files as well.

 

[BigMiIke]

Buy a usb DAC and connect it to the iPad and you will be able to play DSD files as well.

The Onkyo won’t down sample it ?

 

[krabapple]

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well thank you sir - damn .

So not sure what to do now

Use 96kHz streams

 

[Nutul]

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well thank you sir - damn .

So not sure what to do now

Keep listening to 96... I don't think you're missing much.
@krabapple you surely beat me by a split second ;-)

 

[Chrispy]

Well Apple offers 192 streaming - when you click that audio option it actually says you’ll need a DAC to hear it.

My question is, the receiver already has a dac correct?

I’m just trying to hear 192 on my speakers .

Storage isn’t really an issue since it’s Apple Music stream.

And airplay does not play hi res

What do you expect "192" will "sound" like?

 

[unpluggged]

I’m just trying to hear 192 on my speakers .

You won't.

 

[BigMiIke]

What do you expect "192" will "sound" like?

Blissful Eargasm ?

 

[BigMiIke]

Apple doesn’t do 96 ! Grrr
Qobuz does

 

[Zek]

The Onkyo won’t down sample it ?

If you bring an analog signal from the DAC, Onkyo has nothing to do in the digital domain.

 

[Chrispy]

Blissful Eargasm ?

LOL.....best use of such a high sample rate (with elevated bit rate) is for recording/mastering type use rather than simple playback.

 

[Chrispy]

If you bring an analog signal from the DAC, Onkyo has nothing to do in the digital domain.

That would depend input/mode in an avr, most convert for any kind of processing.

 

[Chrispy]

Blissful Eargasm ?

And you wanted to be rescued from your brain. Easier to train the brain?