Benefits of using expensive DACs

[Robin L]

What does that have to do with expensive DACs though?

Thread drift.

 

[WillBrink]

Well maybe the speakers that one needs for a particular room are more easily found using the Klippel measurements?

Makes sense!

Anechoic chambers may, or may not, show the radiation pattern.
I suppose one can start with speakers and then add a bunch of sound deadening panels to a room, or ways to liven up a room.

If the room is tiles or is dead, then that could also influence whether one chooses speakers are of a narrow or wide radiation pattern respectively.

What does that have to do with expensive DACs though?

Nothing, but someone else mentioned Klippel and my thoughts were maybe the use of in room measurements and adjustments that exist were the defacto equivalent as to real world benefits to the listener.

 

[Mart68]

Makes sense!

Nothing, but someone else mentioned Klippel and my thoughts were maybe the use of in room measurements and adjustments that exist were the defacto equivalent as to real world benefits to the listener.

In room measurements to see what's occurring below the transition frequency.

Anechoic measurements (KIippel) to see what is happening above the transition.

That may be a bit simplified -or wrong - but that's my understanding of it from reading Toole.

 

[ahofer]

In room measurements to see what's occurring below the transition frequency.

Anechoic measurements (KIippel) to see what is happening above the transition.

That may be a bit simplified -or wrong - but that's my understanding of it from reading Toole.

I might have missed part of this, but the point of anechoic/Klippel would be to predict performance in many different rooms. You could never get the radiation pattern right without at least quasi-anechoic measurements. But if the point is to see what kind of curve you’ve achieved and Eq-optimize, in-room measurements are good.

 

[Mart68]

I might have missed part of this, but the point of anechoic/Klippel would be to predict performance in many different rooms.

Yes but I was just talking about their application once you have some defined speakers in defined room. My understanding is that in room measurements above the transition don't relate very well to what is actually heard. Peaks/dips etc may not be audible. So better to use the anechoic data.

 

[Holmz]

Yes but I was just talking about their application once you have some defined speakers in defined room. My understanding is that in room measurements above the transition don't relate very well to what is actually heard. Peaks/dips etc may not be audible. So better to use the anechoic data.

We have time and phase correct speakers, cabinet resonances, room interactions, all the trade offs in the speakers, the room, etc.

However… for the DAC… they almost all measure below the level of audibility, so the trade offs are mostly just about features, looks, status points, Feng Shui/WAF, and cost.
It seems a bit easier that selecting a speaker.

 

[BeeKay]

What magical device captured them and put them in the recordings if they can’t be measured?

Should be asked more often. Kudos