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Chr1

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Indeed. Also, the additional weight involved in electric bikes is way more noticeable/detrimental. I would replace my two wee GS500s that I use round town with electric, but only when they are more affordable and less attractive to thieves.

Live in the city centre. Nowhere to charge them and I wouldn't fancy lugging batteries up all my stairs either.

Definitely think their quietness would be an issue too. I like to make a bit of noise so absent minded pedestrians don't continually leap off the sidewalk, lemming style in front of me!
 
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Two-strokes tend to have really narrow powerbands, and since older emissions standards killed them for road use I'd have to assume meeting today's far stricter limits is impossible. Meanwhile you can get 200HP/liter from a fully street-legal and smogged RSV4.
2 strokes are starting to make a come back for dirt bikes & KTM is leading the way.
Also, even my mid-late 1960's McCulloch 101 chainsaw doesn't blow smoke when I use Amsoil 2 stroke oil at 80/1 or 100/1:
 
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Aye, rekon KTM make excellent motos. Miss my Superduke, stolen by f**kwits 2014. Also, now consistently better than most everything bar Ducati in MotoGP too now. No mean feat by all accounts.

Vintage two stroke chainsaws. Now there's something that sounds almost riskier than vintage two stroke race bikes. Vicious power bands. Snapping chains with teeth.
Whoa.
 
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I reckon the biggest Chinese EV battery makers (600lbs gorilla = CATL) do not sleep at night!
They may even have a concerted aspiration to figure out how to penetrate the US markets for sale of 'made in china" EVs... although US buyers' resistance is the current variable.
There are 2 note-worthy concepts that they are working on. First is that their home-market is flourishing with some sort of a standardized modular, drive-thru, replacement battery-packs and the second is that they have taken a foothold in manufacturing EVs and in shiny-new assembly factories in Mexico.o_O
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I can’t even remember if I replied to this before. KLR 650 and 2004 Ducati Multistrada.
Do you have any heated suits/vests and plugs on the bikes for them?
 

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Aye, rekon KTM make excellent motos. Miss my Superduke, stolen by f**kwits 2014. Also, now consistently better than most everything bar Ducati in MotoGP too now. No mean feat by all accounts.

Vintage two stroke chainsaws. Now there's something that sounds almost riskier than vintage two stroke race bikes. Vicious power bands. Snapping chains with teeth.
Whoa.
I had a couple gen 1 1290 SDR's and now a 22 gen 3 evo. The new bike's more serious, better electronics, handling and top speed, but my gen 1 was comfy all the way to the smokey's in a day. I added a 1290 SAS and am finding a whole other world out there doing gravel and trails exploring rural America.
 

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I had a couple gen 1 1290 SDR's and now a 22 gen 3 evo. The new bike's more serious, better electronics, handling and top speed, but my gen 1 was comfy all the way to the smokey's in a day. I added a 1290 SAS and am finding a whole other world out there doing gravel and trails exploring rural America.
Old bikes are like tube amps and record players. Junk.
 

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Old bikes are like tube amps and record players. Junk.
My Suzuki GS850G just flipped in his grave!
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I just looked at a photo of one.
Boy, oh boy! If I was the doctor; I would have slapped the father!
Generic UJM to the max!
 

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I could be wrong but I don't see E-motorcycles ever getting too big until ICE vehicles are outlawed.
A big part of riding them is the sound and feel of the power.
It's interesting that some retro styled bikes are being described as providing an "analog" experience as a sales feature. I am exclusively digital in my audio sources and we have an EV, however I intend to enjoy ICE bikes while they last.
 

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My gen 1 SDR (old junk) was make between 2014-2016, flippin' ancient.
 

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I was but now no because my bones become older easily broken into pieces. Ninja 150RR (two stroke) and KTM RC250 (four stroke), both are single cylinder engine. They are still in the garage.
 

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Just what the world needs is faster more powerful motorcycles.
There's at least 1/2 dozen ICE around with 200+ mph top ends and many are electronically regulated to
not exceed that number by much. Just stupid numbers that will equate an uncontrollable vehicle.
SAL, I had a Suzuki B-King with the Hayabusa detuned engine. Rated at 155 hp. That was plenty for me. Loved the bike but I stupidly modified it and caused myself to break my wrist with an accidental wheelie. Moral of the story, do NOT install o fast turn racing throttle on a street bike. I paid for my foolishness. Or the old "Stupid hurts" applies. I went 140 twice on the bike and its top speed was 150. So basically I never went faster than a less powerful bike could go. I would have liked a lighter bike with the 150hp or even 130 hp.
 

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I was but now no because my bones become older easily broken into pieces. Ninja 150RR (two stroke) and KTM RC250 (four stroke), both are single cylinder engine. They are still in the garage.
for sale?
 

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for sale?
No. I still need them. Remembering youth.
One little finger broken because of the KTM and bent waist because of the Ninja.
The two-stroke engine is much easier to maintain. You only clean the head of the cylinder by using spray. That's it, no more.
 

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I'm not promoting breaking the law. These modern bikes have such a complex 6 axis imu monitoring speed, lean angle and abs rings to manage power delivery that we can grow into them. I think of power and acceleration as another tool to avoid distracted or confused cagers that don't see me and I need to squirt between a quickly vanishing hole or locking up the brakes and pray the car or truck behind me stops in time. I need the option to feel safe riding in and out of town.
 

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And for those offroad adventures, KTM is yours truly, my buddy's GSA
 

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I reckon the biggest Chinese EV battery makers (600lbs gorilla = CATL) do not sleep at night!
They may even have a concerted aspiration to figure out how to penetrate the US markets for sale of 'made in china" EVs... although US buyers' resistance is the current variable.
There are 2 note-worthy concepts that they are working on. First is that their home-market is flourishing with some sort of a standardized modular, drive-thru, replacement battery-packs and the second is that they have taken a foothold in manufacturing EVs and in shiny-new assembly factories in Mexico.o_O
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Do you have any heated suits/vests and plugs on the bikes for them?
No. Probably could have used heat a few times. Have a heated vest I’ve never used. Have those two prong trailer style plugs dangling out for my battery tender. I guess those would work.
 
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