Tracks with silence

[Jimbob54]

Anyone know of any recorded tracks that are actual silence (as opposed to recorded "silence" like John Cage 4.33 which has actual background noise)?

Noticed a scuffling noise on my portable IEM set up between tracks which I think is "noise" between the phone and the dongle which I think stops when the next track kicks in but I would like to check its not just being masked by the music. If I pause mid track I dont hear the scuffling noise, only when there is gaps between tracks stopping and new one starting.

Theory is , if I have a track of silence playing, turn the dongle up fully and hear nothing, all is good.

Ideally on Tidal but a link to a file or webpage would be great

Thanks

 

[killdozzer]

Anyone know of any recorded tracks that are actual silence (as opposed to recorded "silence" like John Cage 4.33 which has actual background noise)?

Noticed a scuffling noise on my portable IEM set up between tracks which I think is "noise" between the phone and the dongle which I think stops when the next track kicks in but I would like to check its not just being masked by the music. If I pause mid track I dont hear the scuffling noise, only when there is gaps between tracks stopping and new one starting.

Theory is , if I have a track of silence playing, turn the dongle up fully and hear nothing, all is good.

Ideally on Tidal but a link to a file or webpage would be great

Thanks

I looked for this some time ago when I was testing all aspects of my speakers. It's not an easy task. The lists of usual testing tunes name Faltermeyer's Beverly Hills Cop theme, but I found that to be too short to have any use of it. I'll dig around those folders of mine where I saved test tunes and get back to you.

 

[Vini darko]

Korn follow the leader has 12 tracks of silance at the start of the album (on cd). On of the strangest starts to an album ever.

 

[killdozzer]

Some short silences here (and a song I genuinely like, not just for testing):

 

[killdozzer]

Ah!! Good going @Vini darko that reminded me. Second Coming by Stone Roses CD has something like 77 tracks with no sound (and it's a CD it should be quiet if nothing has been recorded) before they come back with a 90th track. I guess it was a way to hide it, to reward the persisting ones... I don't know. Anyway, after the 12th track you have 77 silent ones and then the number 90 is "The Foz".

 

[Vini darko]

Also leftfield leftism has about a minute of silance on track 11 at about 4:40 then a bonus bit of bass.

 

[killdozzer]

From wiki: Kid A includes a hidden track in the final track, "Motion Picture Soundtrack." The track has no official title, but is commonly referred to as "Untitled" or "Genchildren". The hidden track starts at about 4:17 and ends at 5:09, with the remaining 1:50 being silent.

 

[Vini darko]

Ah!! Good going @Vini darko that reminded me. Second Coming by Stone Roses CD has something like 77 tracks with no sound (and it's a CD it should be quiet if nothing has been recorded) before they come back with a 90th track. I guess it was a way to hide it, to reward the persisting ones... I don't know. Anyway, after the 12th track you have 77 silent ones and then the number 90 is "The Foz".

The shenanigans with cd albums were alot of fun back in the day

 

[killdozzer]

The shenanigans with cd albums were alot of fun back in the day

I fully support it!! I, myself, am know to be something of a Mr. Shenanigans!

 

[Pluto]

I can prepare you a file of silence if you wish

• what sample rate?
• with baseline dither or true digital silence?
• mono/stereo?
• duration?

If appropriate, you could burn the file onto an audio CD

 

[Soniclife]

@Jimbob54 A lot of devices will digitally mute when sent digital zero/silence, so testing this could be tricky, you might need something that has almost silence.

( ) by Sigur Ros has about 30 seconds of silence at it's half way point (end of track 4), I've always assumed it was meant to simulate the break you get when flipping vinyl over. (edit, they have trimmed the version on Tidal to remove the silence, someone did a crap job it and they don't flow correctly, this streaming thing won't catch on)

 

[antcollinet]

A google for "silent audio files" gives lots of links.

Including this one:

GitHub - anars/blank-audio: Set of blank MP3 audio files

Set of blank MP3 audio files. Contribute to anars/blank-audio development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

 

[MRC01]

Using REW, you can easily generate silence tracks, at any sampling rate, also controlling whether they are dithered or just pure zeros. You can also generate tracks with test tones of any frequencie(s), attenuated to any level you want, even below the bit depth which you can still hear when dithered (for example, a 1 kHz sin at -112 dB dithered at 16-bit resolution).
I've found this useful in my own casual testing and measuring of various equipment.
PS: as for recorded tracks, here are some that I created with REW.

 

[JayGilb]

Ah!! Good going @Vini darko that reminded me. Second Coming by Stone Roses CD has something like 77 tracks with no sound (and it's a CD it should be quiet if nothing has been recorded) before they come back with a 90th track. I guess it was a way to hide it, to reward the persisting ones... I don't know. Anyway, after the 12th track you have 77 silent ones and then the number 90 is "The Foz".

Many decades ago, I discovered that the Galactic Cowboys had 3 hidden tracks on their Space In Your Face CD, but you had to do a weird back/forward selection after the last non-hidden song was done playing. I stumbled on it accidentally when fumble fucking around trying select a track. The songs played forward, but the CD clock counted down on the hidden tracks.

It was pretty cool shit for a high 20-something to find.

 

[pavuol]

found these two tracks on some test compilations, don't know if "this is it" (classic 44/16bit flacs).. you can convert them lossy or lossless to another format with freac GPL sw..

 

[Killingbeans]

The CD version of both Nirvana - Nevermind and Offspring - Smash has a "secret" track as part of the last one, divided by a lot of silence. I think it was a thing that lots of CD releases did back in those days.

 

[Jimbob54]

Ah!! Good going @Vini darko that reminded me. Second Coming by Stone Roses CD has something like 77 tracks with no sound (and it's a CD it should be quiet if nothing has been recorded) before they come back with a 90th track. I guess it was a way to hide it, to reward the persisting ones... I don't know. Anyway, after the 12th track you have 77 silent ones and then the number 90 is "The Foz".

If its on tidal with the extra tracks, hurrah!

 

[killdozzer]

If its on tidal with the extra tracks, hurrah!

It should be

 

[Patrick1958]

Home Again by Michael Kiwanuka about 5/6 seconds silence near the end. Starts at around 2.20 min.

 

[Jimbob54]

Home Again by Michael Kiwanuka about 5/6 seconds silence near the end. Starts at around 2.20 min.

Many thanks