Truthear x Crinacle Zero:RED IEM Review

[markanini]

Keep in mind many laptops headphone outputs have out Z of 75 Ohms or higher.

 

[Jimbob54]

Keep in mind many laptops headphone outputs have out Z of 75 Ohms or higher.

I'm waiting them to clarify but I am pretty sure they mean they plugged back with 3.5mm into the laptop after the free DSP and didn't have the bass they had with that combo initially.

 

[KrafKloot]

exactly.
It went AWOL somewhere along the way.

 

[mc.god]

Seems like yuo inverted the phase on one channel, but with hooked cable I assume it's highly improbable.
Did you try reconnecting Red with FreeDsp to the laptop? If the bass come back then the drivers are ok.

Keep in mind many laptops headphone outputs have out Z of 75 Ohms or higher.

But with higher impedance he should get more bass, if anything...

 

[markanini]

But with higher impedance he should get more bass, if anything...

There's no contradiction, he says freedsp has less bass than PC, that follows the output impedance of each device.

 

[mc.god]

There's no contradiction, he says freedsp has less bass than PC, that follows the output impedance of each device.

my bad, I should learn to read carefully, I understood he switched the Freedsp to the phone and had the problem using the Reds with analog cable on the laptop

 

[Elitzur–Vaidman]

Is it easy to blow those drivers? I mean i have zero bass right now, after using the FreeDSP cable once without playing any kind stupid levels. My 10y old sony headphone that came for free with an old android phone deliver more bass than those truthears...

I had an issue a while back where my left earbud lost most of its output power (particularly bass). I thought it might have been earwax clogging the filter, but even after removing it the volume issue persists. I don't think you blew the drivers without a powerful amp, but there seems to be something that can fail.

 

[Jimbob54]

my bad, I should learn to read carefully, I understood he switched the Freedsp to the phone and had the problem using the Reds with analog cable on the laptop

@markanini too

They did. Initially pllenty of bass from laptop with 3.5mm, used free DSP, no bass (so far, so good, likely impedance difference) but now no bass in any configuration including back to 3.5mm with laptop. So it's either connection issue, user error, some DSP somewhere mucking things up or both side bass drivers have died. Read second sentence and subsequent posts from them.

Truthear x Crinacle Zero:RED IEM Review

So my BTR3K arrived and much to my surprise the impedance on my laptop's 3.5mm jack seems to be even higher than with the Zero Red's impedance adapter. In other words: even with the impedance adapter on the BTRR3K the bass isn't nearly as strong as on my laptop's 3.5mm jack. Same for my old...

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Impossible for anyone here to say which without some awfully protracted confusing dialog.

 

[leonasj500]

I have the crinacle zero which is a fine IEM especially for this price but to manage expectations is nowhere near expensive IEMs like my Sony IER-Z1R

do rolled some cable for z1r? or use stock? does worth upgrade to pure 5N silver cable for iem-z1r?

 

[Somafunk]

Cables make no difference, change them for better feel, suppleness or because you like the colour or material

 

[Phorize]

Cables make no difference, change them for better feel, suppleness or because you like the colour or material

Have to say the stock zero cable is far better than the cables with more expensive iems. It's light, doesn't tangle too easily, totally non microphonic, good construction on the connectors, ear loops are well made and a good shape. Basically perfect.

 

[markanini]

Have to say the stock zero cable is far better than the cables with more expensive iems. It's light, doesn't tangle too easily, totally non microphonic, good construction on the connectors, ear loops are well made and a good shape. Basically perfect.

The only cable I like more is the one that came with Truthears Hola.

 

[MyCuriosity]

do rolled some cable for z1r? or use stock? does worth upgrade to pure 5N silver cable for iem-z1r?

Tye stock cable is great ergonomically with exceptional build quality. I currently use a FiiO cable with detachable connectors. Nothing to mention on sound quality because I didn’t hear any difference. Is just that the FiiO allows greater flexibility between 3.5 and 4.4 connectors

 

[leonasj500]

Tye stock cable is great ergonomically with exceptional build quality. I currently use a FiiO cable with detachable connectors. Nothing to mention on sound quality because I didn’t hear any difference. Is just that the FiiO allows greater flexibility between 3.5 and 4.4 connectors

because both is copper. need pure silver to get sonically improovement?

 

[markanini]

because both is copper. need pure silver to get sonically improovement?

If you think it's different how would you know silver is better and not worse? Do you think an electron behaves differently moving through silver than copper?

 

[GaryH]

Cables make no difference

They can with poorly designed IEMs which have ridiculous impedance swings.

 

[dfuller]

These IEMs sound great - I have them and the Blues. The Reds sound better to me as the bass is a little less overwhelming and they're not so shouty.

 

[berna29]

Hey everyone,

Sorry in advance if my question might sound dumb, but I tried really learning about the matter, but other than "boosting my trebles", I wouldn't be abler to dig further without distorting the sound.

Crinacle and you all will forgive me if I use competitve games in the same sentence of headphones/IEMs, I hope, but basically I purchased both the original Zero and the Red ones and the spatialiaty and the geometry of the original Zero is like on a different level, when compared to Red, at least in games were footsteps and shots directions matter.

As the Red clearly sound better overall though, less distortion on top, I tried to tune them down to the spatiality of the Blue without any luck.

Anyone here potentially able to help with that? I even tried just forcing the tune of the original original Zero on top of the Red, but it still is far from there.

Thanks a lot.

 

[phoenixdogfan]

Hey everyone,

Sorry in advance if my question might sound dumb, but I tried really learning about the matter, but other than "boosting my trebles", I wouldn't be abler to dig further without distorting the sound.

Crinacle and you all will forgive me if I use competitve games in the same sentence of headphones/IEMs, I hope, but basically I purchased both the original Zero and the Red ones and the spatialiaty and the geometry of the original Zero is like on a different level, when compared to Red, at least in games were footsteps and shots directions matter.

As the Red clearly sound better overall though, less distortion on top, I tried to tune them down to the spatiality of the Blue without any luck.

Anyone here potentially able to help with that? I even tried just forcing the tune of the original original Zero on top of the Red, but it still is far from there.

Thanks a lot.

Crinacle published a tuning to give the Blue the tuning of the RED. If you take that tuning, invert every sign and apply it to the RED, it should sound like the Blue, only less distorted. Be sure to apply a preamp adjustment to take overall gain down by an amount greater than the maximum positive gain you gave to the peak filter with the largest magnitude.

 

[markanini]

Hey everyone,

Sorry in advance if my question might sound dumb, but I tried really learning about the matter, but other than "boosting my trebles", I wouldn't be abler to dig further without distorting the sound.

Crinacle and you all will forgive me if I use competitve games in the same sentence of headphones/IEMs, I hope, but basically I purchased both the original Zero and the Red ones and the spatialiaty and the geometry of the original Zero is like on a different level, when compared to Red, at least in games were footsteps and shots directions matter.

As the Red clearly sound better overall though, less distortion on top, I tried to tune them down to the spatiality of the Blue without any luck.

Anyone here potentially able to help with that? I even tried just forcing the tune of the original original Zero on top of the Red, but it still is far from there.

Thanks a lot.

I boost treble above 4400kHz with a single high shelf filter by 2dB and it brings spatial qualities in line with what I expect. The original Zero was too rumbly for me to appreciate any spatial qualities. Hope this helps. https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...inacle-zero-red-iem-review.44865/post-1922093