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Why BOOMERS Hate POP Music - YouTube
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simplex
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Nothing wrong with that! I love T.C. Boyle's books, and I think he uses a computer text processor. But as far as I know he does not sit back and let some computer software generate his books.
Sorry, don't get your vocoder point ... but possibly I would love her voice if she only showed a bit of it ...
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I love computerization of music. It's a kind of democratization actually.
What would Mozart do with one of these? (edit: different link)
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I've often wondered what a composer like that would make of modern DAWs, freed from any limitations in what they can do.
I kind of like that old people don't like young people's music, feels like the natural order of things. There is a ton of music of all types out there, just find the stuff you like and then be enthusiastic about it.
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Heh, imagine Beethoven rocking out with today's equipment.
Yes it feels normal but also really weird if you catch yourself being disconnected from what is popular today. When most modern music started being mere random noise to my ears was one of the first signs I noticed that I was definitely getting ... old(er).
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watchnerd
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Boomer is older than 40+.
Boomers were born immediately post WWII and the 2 decades thereafter.
Gen Xer here, born in the 1970s, and not a Boomer.
paulraphael
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Right ... you don't need much theory to think "this stuff's boring." But theory can help you articulate why it might be.
Going much beyond that, convincingly, would require sociology research that's probably beyond his means and ours.
Robin L
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I recall from "It Was 20 Years Ago Today"---an ITC show that covered both the Beatles, around the time of Sgt. Pepper, and the social scene of 1967 [produced in 1987 to commemorate the CD issue of said album]---a music critic speaking, representing the classical wing: "Music is an encapsulation of time". And that's about the size of it.
As regards "Boomers", I'm in the center of that, born in 1955. The "Boomer" era extends as far forward as born in 1965. If you're younger than that, you're not a Boomer. Boomers are, for the most part, senior citizens, and soon all of the Boomers will be senior citizens. I can listen to modern pop music. I've seen enough of that guy's videos to know he's got a Boomer skew and Boomer prejudices. There's plenty of new stuff that I like, but there's no denying the pull of the past. Everything that is a recording is historical: It's only new the moment it's made. I doubt I'm listening to anything "new" as of this moment, my M.O. is to check out the next big thing a few years later. This comes from [in my previous life] obsessively buying discs of various sorts once they've made it to the used or cut-out bins.
The reality is, as we get older, we fill ourselves up with music of the past, and that past has a major pull on our musical prejudices. I think the pop garbage of my earliest youth functions the same way as pop garbage of this era does, as a way of irritating parents. The music of each and every era reflects that kind of "new" that the parents will hate. I guess I can embrace more music of the present than most folks my age in large part because I've never been a parent.
The Beatles, when they first arrived, were closer [historically speaking] to the Edison Cylinder than we are [now] to the Beatles.
As regards "Boomers", I'm in the center of that, born in 1955. The "Boomer" era extends as far forward as born in 1965. If you're younger than that, you're not a Boomer. Boomers are, for the most part, senior citizens, and soon all of the Boomers will be senior citizens. I can listen to modern pop music. I've seen enough of that guy's videos to know he's got a Boomer skew and Boomer prejudices. There's plenty of new stuff that I like, but there's no denying the pull of the past. Everything that is a recording is historical: It's only new the moment it's made. I doubt I'm listening to anything "new" as of this moment, my M.O. is to check out the next big thing a few years later. This comes from [in my previous life] obsessively buying discs of various sorts once they've made it to the used or cut-out bins.
The reality is, as we get older, we fill ourselves up with music of the past, and that past has a major pull on our musical prejudices. I think the pop garbage of my earliest youth functions the same way as pop garbage of this era does, as a way of irritating parents. The music of each and every era reflects that kind of "new" that the parents will hate. I guess I can embrace more music of the present than most folks my age in large part because I've never been a parent.
The Beatles, when they first arrived, were closer [historically speaking] to the Edison Cylinder than we are [now] to the Beatles.
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paulraphael
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I'm surprised that he's aiming his critique so sharply at the previous 10 years. I worked at MTV in the early 2000s, and thought most of the music we featured on TRL—basically all the chart-topping stuff—was boring for all the reasons he's mentioning here. Maybe autotune wasn't as big a thing yet.
But my criticisms then were the same as now—it sounds like what made me hate the 80s. In the 80s I was supposed to be in my musical formative years, but thought most of the music sucked. I wasn't enough of a music head to discover all the great alt / indy stuff from the era . It was the music on the radio and most of my classmates' walkmen that formed my opinion. Huey Lewis, anyone? Most of the featured hits on I Heart Radio over the last 20 years sound to me like they're beamed straight from Huey's preserved brain in a jar.
Music from off the beaten path is a completely different story. If you look for it, you can find amazing stuff made by artists of every generation.
But my criticisms then were the same as now—it sounds like what made me hate the 80s. In the 80s I was supposed to be in my musical formative years, but thought most of the music sucked. I wasn't enough of a music head to discover all the great alt / indy stuff from the era . It was the music on the radio and most of my classmates' walkmen that formed my opinion. Huey Lewis, anyone? Most of the featured hits on I Heart Radio over the last 20 years sound to me like they're beamed straight from Huey's preserved brain in a jar.
Music from off the beaten path is a completely different story. If you look for it, you can find amazing stuff made by artists of every generation.
watchnerd
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And Daft Punk broke up
simplex
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It's not the tools that are good or bad, it's what we do with them.
If you like music that's generated by computers for the most part, that's absolutely ok. But just have a look at the opening post: it's about different things, infamous 'loudness war' being part of it.
This thread should not be a fight between different musical tastes of any kind.
simplex
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Not really ... if this were true, driving schools would present you a 10 minute video of a guy driving a car. After watching it, you would get your licence, because you saw how it's done ...
No, this is not 'her voice', it's electronics for the most part.