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Snake Oil Department, Top This
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I have to imagine that, in time, a more expensive cable is necessary to get your fix. Right back to the drug dealer analogy...
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JHL throws around these flowery words like he's in Creative Writing 101 and thinks he'd be a great Audio Reviewer. He's no doubt one of the many clowns who infest Hoffman Forums.
Yet at least coke does something for your money
Robin L
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"Snort a line of Coke and you're a new man. And that new man wants another line of Coke."
Derek Taylor, PR man for the Beatles.
Derek Taylor, PR man for the Beatles.
I am forced to nominate the "DAC502" as a potential snake oil.
Strictly based on the statements of the [nameless] company's full-page advertisement in an audio publication.
The ad starts with:
AGAIN?
I don't mean [no] disrespect to the company but my bs-meters are pegged!
Strictly based on the statements of the [nameless] company's full-page advertisement in an audio publication.
The ad starts with:
Their website is also just as fishy sounding:
I don't mean [
jsrtheta
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It's not journalism. It's "journamalism".
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Whahahahha....
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SCHNERZINGER OUTLET INSTALLATION - WANDSTECKDOSE
Die SCHNERZINGER OUTLET INSTALLATION ist die ultimative Wandsteckdose. Bei der Steckdose werden, wie auch bei den SCHNERZINGER Kabeln, die…
Yup, it is most likely a cheap $10 DAC made in China and then resold as the highest end DAC available. So, you take run of the mill products and package them as cutting edge products. The state of the art in audio for todays world is pretty much that. Very sad. It does allow Amir to find the true stand outs in engineering and value so the ASR members don't get swindled.
Hello,
Would tend to agree with you, that is on well designed equipment. Interconnects - if the output impedance is quite low (ten or less ohms, less is better) and the receiving units input impedance is high enough (IE: 20Kohms), then a reasonably designed cable (not high resistance, high inductance or high capacitance) should make quite little to no difference that could possibly be audible.
As there are some really poor equipment designs out there that people buy, I'm afraid that is not a given that cables don't make a difference.
IMHO,
Greg
Killingbeans
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Or rather, if a cable is designed in a stupid enough way it makes a difference to sound, but not the one it claims to do.
No veils lifted or microplankton multiplying. Just a pointless mangling of the frequency response.
No veils lifted or microplankton multiplying. Just a pointless mangling of the frequency response.
Cable design can affect sound quality, but the effect is likely to be small unless the designer really blows it badly. Another issue is that listeners claim to hear a difference in cables; so is that difference an improvement or a degradation in S.Q.? With cables, once R L & C are properly attended to, and maybe aesthetics, shielding where indicated, and handling feel as well, it's a done deal. It's not that difficult to get it right. There's no magic involved, outside of making money mysteriously disappear from wallets.
This is one thing that I will not allow inside our house!
I don't want it to negatively impact the already low house-IQ.
You mean all the time I "thought" my microplankton was multiplying it was actually sitting there doing nothing? I have been swindled, robbed, ripped off and taken advantage of. Sheesh, you can't trust anyone nowadays.
Makes complete sense to me.A cable that exhibits a difference from normal wire of sufficient gauge always presents a degradation of the signal.
Let's imagine that you are a cable manufacturer. You need some sales gimmick to boost your sales. So you design a cable that is not equivalent of a standard cable, but a cable that has been deliberately "doctored" (for lack of a better word) to sound different.
Now you have three advantages. 1) You can show your customers that your cable sounds different, claiming that "different" is "better". 2) You can prove to your customers that the so-called "experts" who claim there isn't a difference in cables are wrong. 3) You can now induce your customers to trust what you say rather than what someone else says, since you've proven what you claim.
You've got those customers in the palm of your hand, and all you had to do to lock them in and get their money was construct an inferior cable. Isn't life great?
Jim
The biggest snake oil of them all are all the newfangled 21st Century televisions (any brand - any size) with built-in tuna-cans for speakers!
The industry's insult to the consumers is truly a travesty.
Have you tried to tell the dude (next door?) with a brand-new 65" Sony OLED TV that maybe he should invest some money in some speakers?
........................................................ and all you get as a response is the puppy eyes!
The industry's insult to the consumers is truly a travesty.
Have you tried to tell the dude (next door?) with a brand-new 65" Sony OLED TV that maybe he should invest some money in some speakers?
........................................................ and all you get as a response is the puppy eyes!
Not nice to make fun of plankton and accusing them of doing nothing.
What's next? You accusing seaweed for invading your acoustical treatment.
Oh wait, I recently read that "sustainability scientists" (@IndianInstituteOfTechnology/Kanpur) are trying to do just that!