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Very brazen people or maybe they are beyond civility and caring.
Loud monkeys on backs tend to drown out all other concerns.
Very brazen people or maybe they are beyond civility and caring.
Indeed... the current system simply creates and allows these cartels to operate. Once may even go as far to say the "war on drugs" was actually the "green light for cartels"... was that the intention?the current system is the worst imaginable
Right. None of us want that. Some people can be rehabilitated and some people can get the proper medicine to become functional members of society. And there are some that can't be and some that will never be able to take care of themselves. For those folks who can't be. What is the end outcome we want for them?The social disorder caused by the drugs in cities is absurd. I see users right in front of Tim Hortons coffee shop with their drug paraphernalia spread out on a seating bench. They are using at a major bus stop with like 10 bus routes stopping there and hundreds of people per hour going in and out of Tim Hortons. Very brazen people or maybe they are beyond civility and caring.
The long term planning and subsequent goal is to house them in unsupported or supported housing. The supported housing is for the ones that can't manage their life/domestics and responsibilities as a contributing member of society. Apparently funds are moving and construction is in progress as a start. I have no idea how the users are going to be rehabilitated if possible. A major part of this issue is the non-intensive care mental health asylums where closed in the late 80s and early 90s and the mentally ill flowed out the doors as they where locked behind them. I understand the same thing occurred in California. I was in San Jose and San Francisco and area and the amount of mentally ill and homeless was absurd as it is in the major cities of Canada and is now also occurring in small cities too.Right. None of us want that. Some people can be rehabilitated and some people can get the proper medicine to become functional members of society. And there are some that can't be and some that will never be able to take care of themselves. For those folks who can't be. What is the end outcome we want for them?
I googled for a bit and found the stats are dated years before cannabis was legalized. So the cannabis charges are included in the total drug charges and are corrupting the recent years of drug charge stats and incarceration rates. The actual rate of drug offenses may be lower or even higher with the increasing rate of fentanyl/carfentanil use and abuse.What are the drug related incarceration rates in your country like?
Just two very different approaches to taking a trip, yes? In the one case, you strap yourself in, the bus driver takes control of the direction, and you stare vacantly out the window. In the other, the user straps the needle in, and his self-direction goes out the window as he stares vacantly into the sky. Both usually have a fair amount of baggage they are carrying.The social disorder caused by the drugs in cities is absurd. I see users right in front of Tim Hortons coffee shop with their drug paraphernalia spread out on a seating bench. They are using at a major bus stop with like 10 bus routes stopping there and hundreds of people per hour going in and out of Tim Hortons. Very brazen people or maybe they are beyond civility and caring.
I guess recreational use and chasing the dragon's tail has become so commonplace for these users that public consumption is no big deal. The coppers turn a blind eye. I suppose they are inundated with users on the street and are interested in dealers rather than users.Just two very different approaches to taking a trip, yes?
And you obviously know nothing about addiction. Every study done has shown that safe injection sites save taxpayers money--or would you rather have taxpayers foot the cost for half brain dead ex-junkies who received the Narcan a little late, or pay for all those HIV antiviral meds for the next 40 years.Sure, legalize it, but the ambulance and EMT supplying Narcan better not be free to all of the junkies that OD, and they need to pay for their needles, too.
Or make chemo and similar treatment to children born with cancer and other illnesses free, so the parents don't have to bankrupt the family trying to save their baby.
Don't understand why drug addicts that create their own problems get treated to free places to shoot up in public and free needles, and get free life saving medical care for something they brought upon themselves, but insulin costs a Type 1 diabetic a shit ton of cash to stay alive.
Hari is good and has written two outstanding books that are real eyeopeners--one on depression and the other on drugs. The one on the wa on drugs was extraordinarily well researched, and is the basis for the film The United States vs Billie Holiday:Rogan had an incredible guest by the name of Johann Hari on JRE #1250 in which they discussed the Opioid Crisis and how different countries have tackled the matter. As Hari describes the epidemic, opioid deaths are "deaths of despair" and plague certain areas much harder than others depending primarily on how the government tackles the issue. IMHO, the USA is not handling the mater as best as it could. Switzerland apparently wiped out their opioid crisis by legalizing heroine. The way Hari explains it, makes perfect sense.... Highly recommend checking out JRE #1250
I see the narcan kits strapped to peoples waists and hanging off belts and such around town and I know people that keep them at home/in the car just in case. People are really geared up for this. The narcan kits are free in pharmacies. I was commuting the other day and saw a guy at a bus stop hunched over and apparently unconscious and another guy was opening what appeared to be a narcan kit with the large red cross on it and looked like he was preparing to inject. It's so common now the ambulances are running all night long and the first responders are saying it in the news that it is because of opiates.One other item as a PSA: almost all of the heroin and an alarming number of other illegal drugs contain as an active ingredient the synthetic opiate fetanyl. In the case of heroin, the heroin is entirely absent in much of this stuff. The problem is with potency--fetanyl is 50x as powerful as Heroin and 100x more powerful than morphine. What this translates to is a rapidly increasing number of OD's, many of which are fatal.
One reason that they are fatal is that two of the doses used to treat overdose are simply insufficient. It comes as a nasal spray of 2, 4 or 8mg. Eight should always be used these days for anyone near adult size. If unavailable multiply doses until 8 has been administered--it could save someone's life.
Not legalise, but decriminalise for small amounts so individual users are diverted from the court system and have the matter treated as a health issue. Harm minimisation and education is the key here, not convicting people of a crime. A step further would be to create supply from official sources that is taxed for state/national revenue and much cheaper than the black market... this will take the business away to an extent from criminal enterprise by making it less profitable and not as worth the risk. Their dirty business needs to be crushed and regulated properly.
There has also been some research done that possibly showed that mental illness associated with hard usage is often not caused by drug use itself (certainly exacerbated), however the specific condition draws them to the usage of that drug.
JSmith
England has not experimented with legalisation. Some years ago now cannabis was downgraded from a class b illegal to a class c illegal for a short time. That's all.Having pharmaceutical grade , sterile , accurately dosed material would save some lives.
There probably is very little heroin left on the black market. It is all the fentanyl and its' derivatives. It has a smaller therapeutic window and thus is much more dangerous.
England had an experiment with legalization and they stopped it. But the notion of sucking the profit out of it would probably move things in the correct direction.
IMO, HELL YES.The Province of British Columbia in Canada is lobbying the federal government to legalize hard drugs. Many people think this is a solution including the front line medical workers. Cannabis is already legal Canada wide under federal law. The war on hard drugs is not succeeding and there are some thousands of people dead from hard drugs in British Columbia each year. The total amount of hard drugs related deaths around the world must be huge and the perpetrators are not being brought to justice. So legalize or not?
I am a strong supporter of legalization - not only legal, but provided gratis.The Province of British Columbia in Canada is lobbying the federal government to legalize hard drugs. Many people think this is a solution including the front line medical workers. Cannabis is already legal Canada wide under federal law. The war on hard drugs is not succeeding and there are some thousands of people dead from hard drugs in British Columbia each year. The total amount of hard drugs related deaths around the world must be huge and the perpetrators are not being brought to justice. So legalize or not?