The research shows that the odds of that are very low. Very few people don't like ice cream.....I can see that such analysis makes perfect sense for manufacturers but one person's preference is irrelevant to me if it differs from my own.
Headphone research is not nearly as good as speakers. With speakers, they are measured in anechoic chamber leaving no doubt as to validity of that information. Such does not exist for headphones.I am told that the Etymotic IEMs are wrong because they don't conform to the headphone curve which has also been developed yet personally I am a huge fan of the ER4SR flat response.
The research shows that the odds of that are very low. Very few people don't like ice cream.....
Headphone research is not nearly as good as speakers. With speakers, they are measured in anechoic chamber leaving no doubt as to validity of that information. Such does not exist for headphones.
I can understand this. I still like my large ESL panels.I don't buy speakers based on looking at how they conform to the Harman /NRC curve.
I guess I might be described as one of the sceptics. It's not that I question the research or their results in terms of statistical correlation between response and preference but rather that a preference is just that, a preference. The essential basis of the research seems to be based on analysis of preference, I can see that such analysis makes perfect sense for manufacturers but one person's preference is irrelevant to me if it differs from my own. If talking about preference then there is no "right" or "wrong". I am told that the Etymotic IEMs are wrong because they don't conform to the headphone curve which has also been developed yet personally I am a huge fan of the ER4SR flat response.
If 75% of the listeners prefer "Harmon" to "Harman", why haven't they renamed the company yet?
Resonances do show up in the spin-o-rama and are to be avoided. Resonances are something CSD would show you. It is true distortion is not shown, but also has not been found to be a factor in listener preference. Harman speakers generally are easier than average to drive.Q1) What data are you given about the speaker?
Q2) How does your setup effect the speaker you choose?
- Spinorama tells you nothing in regards to how hard it is to drive, distortion, compression, CSD, group delay, etc.
- e.g., A small room likely would mean to look for a speaker with narrower dispersion, thus less reflections; vice-versa for a large room.
The research shows that the odds of that are very low. Very few people don't like ice cream.....
Headphone research is not nearly as good as speakers. With speakers, they are measured in anechoic chamber leaving no doubt as to validity of that information. Such does not exist for headphones.
Is anyone here familiar with Scott Wheeler? This is his question.
I am not sure he believes the research at NRC/Harman was/is of scientific nature -- Yet he claims to not object to or disagree with the research -- although he's previously professed his issues with the research. His circular reasoning begets circular arguments. To no end, can you have a reasonable conversation with this person. He enjoys calling out both objectivists and subjectivists while at the same time, he is a die hard objectivist and die hard objectivist. A part of me used to believe he was a troll and I once referred to him as a nihilist based on our prior conversations but I can see now that he is dead serious.
So the question for us "self proclaimed objectivists" -- his words -- How can we know which loudspeakers we prefer without personally taking part in blind comparisons to substantiate our preference? Is this practical? Is this realistic?
Lastly, this is his proposal to properly testing each loudspeaker to determine a preference: "The difference for me would be setting both speakers up as they are supposed to be used with room treatments that suit each individual design."
Thoughts?
Is there a practical set of procedures that an ordinary home listener, who enjoys the principles of this site, can use to select and decide on speakers?
Is there a practical set of procedures that an ordinary home listener, who enjoys the principles of this site, can use to select and decide on speakers?
Is there a practical set of procedures that an ordinary home listener, who enjoys the principles of this site, can use to select and decide on speakers?
Is there a practical set of procedures that an ordinary home listener, who enjoys the principles of this site, can use to select and decide on speakers?