THIS! Thank you.I have always used the term for the direction of the speakers relative to the listener.
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THIS! Thank you.I have always used the term for the direction of the speakers relative to the listener.
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The diagram seems consistent with option #3 (relative to speaker axes parallel).I have always used the term for the direction of the speakers relative to the listener.
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I would counter that most people don't automatically aim Speakers at the MLP rather they place them along a wall with the beam-axis perpendicular to said wall.
I did not want to use a bunch of words to describe the relative plane of the speakers perpendicular to the listener and all that jazz so I just drew a picture. This is just what I learned decades ago, working in the business, and what everyone I know has used since. Could still be wrong, of course, but I'll stick with it.The diagram seems consistent with option #3 (relative to speaker axes parallel).
It doesn't seem correct to describe this as relative to the listener.
Don , At your age any urge is to be celebrated .Now I'm getting the urge to visit Menard's...
This is my understanding of the term. I think of it as "absolute toe" instead of "relative toe".I have always used the term for the direction of the speakers relative to the listener.
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Trinnov describes the pros and cons of this very well. It broadens the effective listening area, i.e. a broader "sweet spot", at the cost of comprising the center position slightly. It also requires the right room and speakers for the best results. Another common approach is to toe the speakers out slightly, instead of in (for cross-firing), to spread the center image a bit at the listening position. I've tried both; cross-firing helps with R/L localization for listeners at the sides, whilst toe-out provides a broader but less well-defined center image.Trinnov recommend cross firing (which I think some would call extreme toe in) in their speaker layout guide. (In the case of a treated room).
This is because it minimises unnecessary sound energy introduced to the room and gives an even frequency response across the largest number of seats. It also helps the centre image position if you are not at mlp.
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I see Speakers generally placed perpendicular to a wall as the starting point. I think outside of Audio-Head circles, you will find this the most common placement for Speakers. Perhaps I'm wrong. *shrugsThere is on-axis. Toe-in and toe-out IMO
Boy, I've missed you, Sir Thomas! Let us know if you're ever heading across the pond for a visit. But stay out of @amirm's trailer this time, you hear?Don , At your age any urge is to be celebrated .
Yes there is. "I lost my wine cellar in the divorce." Trust me on this one.Nothing more sad than ' I lost the hifi in the divorce '
Doggy electrics , guy can't see red from black never mind pull a weed . , my guess if that merc hasn't catched fire , it was a Mexican who rewired it and not the inventor of the world's best failed personal audio device aka Amirm or Amir to his pals .Boy, I've missed you, Sir Thomas! Let us know if you're ever heading across the pond for a visit. But stay out of @amirm's trailer this time, you hear?
Theres cream for that now...You'll get wear on the outside of the tread with too much toe-in.
/Wait...what?
Its your own fault , you just remember that while you have fantom memories of the wine you can no longer afford and or even find ...Yes there is. "I lost my wine cellar in the divorce." Trust me on this one.
Kinky bugger. Duck 3 ways., I thought a menard was a duck ..
I see Speakers generally placed perpendicular to a wall as the starting point. I think outside of Audio-Head circles, you will find this the most common placement for Speakers. Perhaps I'm wrong. *shrugs
But this is the starting point I see most newbs place their Speakers.
Not this one, trust me on that, too.A ride for old time sake can be one of the best rides