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yes, but Europe...I assumed that ~$500 was the OP's approximate budget, otherwise I would have recommended a Rythmik F12/F15/F18 for music.
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In Europe, and around that price, this may be your best bet:
- http://www.bkelec.com/HiFi/Sub_Woofers/Double_Gem.html
- http://www.bkelec.com/HiFi/Sub_Woofers/Double_Gem.html
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Thank you, interesting...
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Mybe w
And XLS300 MK2, which will be better performance...for music...?
And why would you think that?
According to "audiophiles", sealed is good, ported is bad
And the XLS300 has a Passive Radiator, which is more or less a ported alignment
More info on Ported VS PR here.
- The XLS300 has a 12" vs dual 10" (14.1" area) on the Double Gen
- The XLS300 has a slight more powerful amp
- Due to the PR, the XLS300 will reach deeper around port tuning.
Theoretically, the Double Gen should be best for music, due to the higher cone area, and a sealed alignment, it should allow for a higher crossover point (important if your mains are small).
Both are good choices for the price, and way cheaper their REL counterparts.
Ironically, IIRC, in the beginning, REL subs were manufactured by BK
According to "audiophiles", sealed is good, ported is bad
And the XLS300 has a Passive Radiator, which is more or less a ported alignment
More info on Ported VS PR here.
- The XLS300 has a 12" vs dual 10" (14.1" area) on the Double Gen
- The XLS300 has a slight more powerful amp
- Due to the PR, the XLS300 will reach deeper around port tuning.
Theoretically, the Double Gen should be best for music, due to the higher cone area, and a sealed alignment, it should allow for a higher crossover point (important if your mains are small).
Both are good choices for the price, and way cheaper their REL counterparts.
Ironically, IIRC, in the beginning, REL subs were manufactured by BK
Another great option for you in Germany: SVS SB-1000 white, 599€
Nice sub.
fair price also and definitely worth the price difference to the rel Tzero. (And Im saying this as a happy owner of the rel)
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The RSL is much bigger (0.5cf to 2.1cf) and isn't near the same class in finish. I'm not saying the REL is better but if size and finish are more important than output, then no matter how great it is, the RSL isn't a competitor.
Is it a good option for the audio obsessed that like it loud and deep? No.
Is it okay for many 'normal' listeners? Probably.
People here tend to forget that for most people audio isn't a hobby, it is something they turn on and go about their day.
Normal people spend $1,500 on a tiny subwoofer? Can't agree with you there.
I don't think volume is really the way to compare size, it's footprint. Who cares if something is 12 inches high or 9? Also, this REL looks cheap to me, but that's just my opinion.
Have you seen my ‘subwoofer comparison’ spreadsheet?
I recently added REL Tzero MkIII’s CEA data.
I recently added REL Tzero MkIII’s CEA data.
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The REL is $450, which puts it right in the normal person budget.
Of course you're right, I was posting in a hurry and had the price of KEF KC62 in my mind.
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How do we define a normal person? I didn't know anything about REL as a brand before this review.
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