GGNTKT M3 yes M3 Formerly known as M2!

[Matt_Holland]

Why is the D&D8c able to produce more bass than this larger speaker with its larger drivers ?

Is it though?
The 8c is capable of 106dB continuous from 35Hz, but their specs don’t say whether this is 0, -3dB or -6dB.
The M3 goes flat down to 40Hz based on the graph above. -6dB looks like approximately 30-32Hz. And maybe the M3 goes louder at 35Hz than 106dB? @roland{at}GGNTKT ?

 

[muslhead]

Is it though?
The 8c is capable of 106dB continuous from 35Hz, but their specs don’t say whether this is 0, -3dB or -6dB.
The M3 goes flat down to 40Hz based on the graph above. -6dB looks like approximately 30-32Hz. And maybe the M3 goes louder at 35Hz than 106dB? @roland{at}GGNTKT ?

Huh, have you read the 8c specs that are posted on the 8c website?
FREQUENCY RESPONSE
30 Hz – 20 kHz ± 1 DB

Last time i checked 30hz @ +/- 1db is more bass than ~30hz @ -6db

 

[Matt_Holland]

Huh, have you read the 8c specs that are posted on the 8c website?
FREQUENCY RESPONSE
30 Hz – 20 kHz ± 1 DB

Last time i checked 30hz @ +/- 1db is more bass than ~30hz @ -6db

Yes, but at what SPL? The 8c looks like it has a limiter on the bass driver hence by the time it is outputting 106dB the extension has been reduced to 35Hz.
I think you’re splitting hairs somewhat. Both are similarly capable in bass output. Until we can compare like for like specs which include any dynamic compression/limiting. It’s not like the 8c trounces it.

 

[Soniclife]

Why is the D&D8c able to produce more bass than this larger speaker with its larger drivers ?

The 8c is not cardioid below 100hz, this is. Some of its output is being used to create the cardioid.

 

[Soniclife]

What driver config did these end up with?

 

[MKR]

@roland{at}GGNTKT The M3s are looking excellent! Some questions … M3s in US? US dealers? Plans to demonstrate at any US audio shows?

Thanks!

 

[roland{at}GGNTKT]

Is it though?
The 8c is capable of 106dB continuous from 35Hz, but their specs don’t say whether this is 0, -3dB or -6dB.
The M3 goes flat down to 40Hz based on the graph above. -6dB looks like approximately 30-32Hz. And maybe the M3 goes louder at 35Hz than 106dB? @roland{at}GGNTKT ?

Model M3 does deliver about 109 dB @35 Hz @10% THD, that is per piece and without room gain. Typically you gain +6 db as a pair and 6...12 dB by the room (walls), so you should have 120-125 dB in total.

 

[Matt_Holland]

Model M3 does deliver about 109 dB @35 Hz @10% THD, that is per piece and without room gain. Typically you gain +6 db as a pair and 6...12 dB by the room (walls), so you should have 120-125 dB in total.

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@Tachyon88 what do you think?
This is extremely useful information. Thanks Roland.

I’m very keen to hear these at some point.

Regarding connectivity to the amp, have you considered having a conventional coax digital input? Then we could connect any digital source easily.

 

[Purité Audio]

GGNTKT M3 playing in our house

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Purité Audio London, Kii THREE, Dutch&Dutch 8C, GGNTKT, Mesanovic, Sigberg Audio 'Manta', RME, EVERSOLO DMP A-8, the finest equipment and no bullshit.

www.puriteaudio.co.uk

Keith

 

[MKR]

GGNTKT M3 playing in our house

Purité Audio's NEWS

Purité Audio London, Kii THREE, Dutch&Dutch 8C, GGNTKT, Mesanovic, Sigberg Audio 'Manta', RME, EVERSOLO DMP A-8, the finest equipment and no bullshit.

www.puriteaudio.co.uk

Keith

And? How do they sound?

 

[Purité Audio]

A bit quiet because they are still in Berlin.
Keith

 

[MKR]

A bit quiet because they are still in Berlin.
Keith

So turn up the volume! You said they were “playing in our house”, hence reason for my question

 

[Purité Audio]

Our house in Berlin,
Just marketing MKR you shouldn’t believe everything you read!
Best,
Keith

 

[Soniclife]

A bit quiet because they are still in Berlin.
Keith

I bet your wife can tell you how good they are from there.

 

[MKR]

Our house in Berlin,
Just marketing MKR you shouldn’t believe everything you read!
Best,
Keith

Apparently you are one to not be taken so literally

 

[Tachyon88]

@Tachyon88 what do you think?
This is extremely useful information. Thanks Roland.

I’m very keen to hear these at some point.

Regarding connectivity to the amp, have you considered having a conventional coax digital input? Then we could connect any digital source easily.

I think I want, they look good and get loud ! Unfortunately I'm priced out. Maybe in the future I can luck out on a pre-owned !

 

[MKR]

@Purité Audio Any update on the GGNTKT M3s ?

 

[Purité Audio]

MK no sadly not, I asked Roland if it might be possible to hear one of the demonstration pairs, he wanted me to buy two pairs of M1s which would allow me to borrow the M3’s for a few months, I declined and here we are.
Perhaps I was being unreasonable.
Keith

 

[MKR]

MK no sadly not, I asked Roland if it might be possible to hear one of the demonstration pairs, he wanted me to buy two pairs of M1s which would allow me to borrow the M3’s for a few months, I declined and here we are.
Perhaps I was being unreasonable.
Keith

I would rather say Roland is the one being unreasonable. Especially if you offered to pay shipping fees both ways for the demos. Too bad.

 

[roland{at}GGNTKT]

Finally some updates for Model M3 on our website (there should be a machine-based English version).
We will demo at a fair in Hamburg in two weeks, so if somebody is around, come and listen