They're not supposed to be.They are not transparent
Nonsense.the sound will be clearer without using them
It's so ironic that artists and sound engineers other try so hard to capture the the frequency robbing and enhancing aspects and reverberations of the room in a recording session and the enthusiasts try hard to mitigate theirs.
Please be happy with your gearThey're not supposed to be.
Nonsense.
The Dirac system is massively the biggest improvement I've made to my system in decades. You'll have to pry it out of my cold, dead fingers.
yup. if you listen to a lot of different recordings, you will notice that some trigger reinforcing room modes. then start with a reasonable cut with a high Q around that and see how it goes. another way to do it is listen to test tracks starting with 20hz, in 10hz increments. it’s easy to hear modes that way. my experience suggests that a fairly sharp cut in that region does wonders. after cutting the biggest one, though, you need to look for the secondary ones too.Implementing one or two eq filters will allow you to enjoy full-range sound in your room without ‘boom’ that’s pretty simple and probably the single biggest improvement in terms of EQ you can make.
Keith
In all things, I follow the maxim, "Make everything as simple as possible ... but no simpler."
Oh, you mean like in the studio with damping material everywhere ? Do you really want to live in such a room .That makes no sense.....
The point of calibrating a room or speakers for that matter, it to try and make it sound like the artists intended it to sound!
My point was that on one end sound altering room effects are often viewed as an enhancements.That makes no sense.....
The point of calibrating a room or speakers for that matter, it to try and make it sound like the artists intended it to sound!
Embracing Simplicity in Audio: Anyone Else Skipping Room Correction, Measurement Microphones, and the Like?
The topic came to my mind spontaneously, and I didn't hesitate to open the thread. Just now, something else occurred to me. The esteemed designer Dieter Rams had the following maxim: 'Less but better'. (Weniger, aber besser) I have tried to internalize this philosophy.
Do you have mice problems?Yes, in the garage, where the old multiband radio plays softly 24/7.
And you can hear that deviation from CD?Well, just look at the cheapest mini dsp and some of the dirac devices , all measured already by Amirm with less resolution result than CD quality. They are not transparent, and the sound will be clearer without using them. Many use those to correct their systems In the belief they are good. Much greater results can be gained by correct installation of the stereo speakers In the room, using tunemethod.
It is an even bigger waste of time, endlessly chasing your tale, by pretty much randomly introducing all kinds of changes to your system and judging the difference with your ears. It pretty much ensures, that except by chance, you will never achieve an objective improvement of approximating more the original signal as recorded. And even if you do you will not recognize it for certain. That’s the approach many audiophiles pursue.Most roomcorrection programs change the music quality for the worse - ie are not transparent also If you do no corrections at all. WiiM pro is one brilliant exception - both cheap and transparent at the same time so one can use the PEQ function without loosing audible transparency.
Doing measurement corrections with the help of a microphone takes a long time to learn how to do it correctly , most room correction programes give unfortunately wrong instructions . The ear/brain is very different working than a microphone. The brains selects sound, the microphone take up all the sound.
The ear is much better to judge the playback quality and the intentions of the musicians than any measurement microphone . As John Atkinsson at stereophile says : ” all measurements tell lies ” .
Its easy to waste lifetime in measuring the wrong things , theres also nothing called perfect sound with 2 channel playback…..
Oh, you mean like in the studio with damping material everywhere ? Do you really want to live in such a room .
If you are not in a studio, that could be true. In a proper studio, couldn't be further from the truth.It's so ironic that artists and sound engineers often try so hard to capture the the frequency robbing and enhancing aspects and reverberations of the room in a recording session and the enthusiasts try hard to mitigate theirs.
Agreed but its ironic that sound altering room effects are often coveted on the recording side and I would argue on the playback side by some too. Look at these AVR modes.If you are not in a studio, that could be true. In a proper studio, couldn't be further from the truth.
Proper DSP attempts to recreate the conditions of that "proper" studio where the sound engineer made the recording.
And there are scientific standards that are followed in creating such room.
There is nothing ironic about proper DSP
Specific products by the likes of MiniDSP, Sonos, Dirac and Audyssey are proprietary. But what they do, not so much: They may perform quasi-anechoic measurements using unique "chirp" tones, but I expect that the actual corrections they apply are based on standard parametric filters