50-Ton Sonic Sphere in NYC... "The Sphere" in Vegas... any thoughts?

[Astoneroad]

There's an article on the front page of today's NYT titled: "Enter the 50-Ton Concert Hall That Hangs Like a Disco Ball"... At the Shed in Manhattan, audience members can take in live, spatially designed music inside a suspended hall called the Sonic Sphere. https://theshed.org/program/304-sonic-sphere There have been previous versions of this at Burning Man, etc... but this is the latest and greatest according to the designers. Has anyone experience this one or previous versions? Thoughts?

Of course, any of these are dwarfed by the massive MSG $2.3B Sphere being completed in Las Vegas for a fall opening with U2 for 25 shows. The financial prospects look impossible... but they built it... so let's see if "They will come".
Vegas:

NYC

 

[RayDunzl]

Las Vegas Sphere:

"The venue will have a seated capacity of 17,600 or 20,000 standing room."

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[ocinn]

The system for the Vegas Sphere, is from a German company called Holoplot

Sound Control

HOLOPLOT 3D Audio-Beamforming provides precise control over sound on both axes and over long distances. Create multiple zones, targeted audio experiences, and innovate immersive installations.

holoplot.com

164,000 speakers to be deployed.

Website is broken for me and I cannot download their data sheet even after giving them my information.

 

[DVDdoug]

A sphere is the worst shape for standing waves, but I'm sure there will be plenty of acoustic treatment.

 

[Doodski]

A nice video of the sphere in operation.

The massive Sphere in Las Vegas puts on mesmerizing sneak peek show - National | Globalnews.ca

Sphere, located just off the Las Vegas strip, boasts the world's largest LED screen, making it capable of creating some astonishing graphics.

globalnews.ca

 

[ItSoundsNatural01]

Once Holoplot tech trickles down .. it is game over for traditional surround sound setups and speakers!

 

[Deleted member 21219]

The system for the Vegas Sphere, is from a German company called Holoplot

Sound Control

HOLOPLOT 3D Audio-Beamforming provides precise control over sound on both axes and over long distances. Create multiple zones, targeted audio experiences, and innovate immersive installations.

holoplot.com

164,000 speakers to be deployed.


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I wonder ..... could this be a Bessel array?

https://www.xlrtechs.com/dbkeele.com/PDF/Keele%20(1989-10%20AES%20Preprint)%20-%20Bessel%20Arrays.pdf

A Paul Kemble web page - speaker bessel arrays.

Sound and sound systems - an informal look. Bessel arrays (speaker and microphone).

www.angelfire.com

Jim

 

[ItSoundsNatural01]

I wonder ..... could this be a Bessel array?

https://www.xlrtechs.com/dbkeele.com/PDF/Keele%20(1989-10%20AES%20Preprint)%20-%20Bessel%20Arrays.pdf

A Paul Kemble web page - speaker bessel arrays.

Sound and sound systems - an informal look. Bessel arrays (speaker and microphone).

www.angelfire.com

Jim

Idea is to control sound like light!!!

 

[Ron Texas]

A sphere is the worst shape for standing waves, but I'm sure there will be plenty of acoustic treatment.

I suspect the standing wave problem has been addressed from the ground up. Rather than acoustic treatment it's acoustic design. This does beg the question, why a sphere?

50 tons isn't that much. A loaded 18 wheeler weighs 40 tons.

 

[tw99]

I suspect the standing wave problem has been addressed from the ground up. Rather than acoustic treatment it's acoustic design. This does beg the question, why a sphere?

50 tons isn't that much. A loaded 18 wheeler weighs 40 tons.

Spherical shape is presumably for 360(ish) visuals.

 

[holdingpants01]

the one in LV is actually awesome

 

[Andysu]

The system for the Vegas Sphere, is from a German company called Holoplot

Sound Control

HOLOPLOT 3D Audio-Beamforming provides precise control over sound on both axes and over long distances. Create multiple zones, targeted audio experiences, and innovate immersive installations.

holoplot.com

164,000 speakers to be deployed.


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Website is broken for me and I cannot download their data sheet even after giving them my information.

i give £1 pound for that speaker amp decoder , , okay next one £1 pound , i'm cheap see as this immersive audio is a scam by dolby labs all the rest . otherwise real life sound is £ free