Your loudspeakers are too small!

[krabapple]

I'm convinced my speakers, your speakers and 98% of enthusiasts speakers are too small. Too small not only to provide enough headroom for uncompressed loud dynamic peaks, but too small (and inefficient) to provide micro-dynamics at lower volumes. Increasing amplifier wattage does not solve this issue.

I can't see a way out of this scenario, big speakers aren't exactly inconspicuous (or beautiful for that matter), but I think of the reviews of 5" or 6" bass driver bookshelf speakers looking for ever better measurements could just be chasing our collective tails. Is there really something groundbreaking yet to come out of such small speakers, however expensive?

Even the Genelec Ones have an optional W371A bass unit to go with it, to free them up from reproducing the difficult bass region, suggesting that for all it's clever design, you can't fight physics and what physics demands is more cone area & larger cabinet size.

If you have the space (and most of us do), then what you need are bigger speakers.

Nonsense.

Sorry about your size anxiety.

 

[fpitas]

 

[computer-audiophile]

Just another example from an experimental setup of my own. It was a lot of fun when some audio friends heard it at my private 'concert for loudspeakers'.

 

[Sal1950]

Just another example from an experimental setup of my own. It was a lot of fun when some audio friends heard it at my private 'concert for loudspeakers'.

What's the purpose of the suspended speaker, a tweeter?

 

[computer-audiophile]

What's the purpose of the suspended speaker, a tweeter?

Yes, it is a three way system.

 

[Tom C]

Looks like a novel approach to create a coaxial system.

 

[Sal1950]

Yes, it is a three way system.

Does it tend to move around at loud levels.
It appears to be just hanging by the wires
That would modulate it's sound?

 

[computer-audiophile]

No problem in reality. But how it sounded, only those who heard it know.

 

[Sal1950]

Looks like a novel approach to create a coaxial system.

It's been done before.
Below is a Kleinhorn that belonged to Nelson Pass many years ago.
I always considered the wood used for the mouth of the bass horn WAY too thin.

 

[computer-audiophile]

I also once built a loudspeaker based on a Nelson-Pass template. Very exactly according to the template. Its Name was J-Low, when I remember it right. It was a misconstruction, sorry. I have more fun following my own ideas anyway. I still have a picture of it, but no time now, as I'm about to go to a concert.

 

[Sal1950]

Just another example from an experimental setup of my own.

What's your latest design ?

 

[NiagaraPete]

I know women who own big speakers themselves. So it's certainly not a general thing.

An ex of me who is still a close friend just installed a pair of big JBL 4675C's in her fairly large living room to replace her modified Kiplisch horns. They are powered with Bryston amps (2x 28B for the bass cabinet and a 2.5B for the tweeters) and a MiniDSP flex DSP as crossover. She is planning to rebuild the bass cabinets (they are a bit beaten up) in multiplex birch and finish them with lineseed oil, as the black finish is ugly she said. The Kiplisch horns are sold.

And another women i know has a Altec Lansing A7's (288 tweeter and 416 woofer) in her house with added diy subs (sealed cabinets with UM18-22 drivers i did build for her). She uses Manley tube amps for the A7 and a powersoft X4 for her 4 subs and a "tuned to the system" analog active 3way crossover build by Marchand electronics.

But not all women are like that, i know...

I know a woman who said “when you die those speakers (Genelec) will be gone right behind you”.

 

[Sal1950]

I know a woman who said “when you die those speakers (Genelec) will be gone right behind you”.

LOL. As long as he has them now, that's all the counts.
Maybe he should ask her for an XXXL size coffin and put his Genelec in it.
Then they'd both be happy.

 

[Neddy]

OR be buried in them. 1/2 in each JBL L300 would be about right.

 

[NiagaraPete]

in each JBL L300

Funny, in another thread I list the L300’s the worst speaker I’d ever heard. They permanently put me off JBL.

 

[Sal1950]

OR be buried in them. 1/2 in each JBL L300 would be about right.

If cremated, the ashes could go IN the Genelec's
They'd make an excellent urn. LOL

 

[Sal1950]

Funny, in another thread I list the L300’s the worst speaker I’d ever heard.

My my my, they weren't that bad.
Thousands loved them.
So who's right?

 

[Sokel]

My my my, they weren't that bad.
Thousands loved them.
So who's right?

Is there right and wrong in liking?
(except when people pretend to like or not to show class/elitism/secretknowlegde/other boring stuff)

 

[NiagaraPete]

My my my, they weren't that bad.
Thousands loved them.
So who's right?

Well they’re loud but it’s the 1 note bass that separates them from a good speaker.

 

[stevenswall]

Is there right and wrong in liking?

Yes.

You can't say "I like fast acceleration and going over 100mph on a racetrack" and then say that those are the reasons you bought a Model T. That's not expressing a subjective preference, it's demonstrating illogical thinking and willful stupidity.

For audio, that means someone can't say "I like the JBL L100/similar bass-lite Klipsch designs because they have deeper, more extended bass than the Devialet Phantom."

That is no longer expressing a subjective preference, but rather demonstrating that one is insane or lying to themselves and others.