I had a naim muso speaker. It was for the dining room, so the appearance was very important. It sounded good, and the wireless playback was good. But the user interface was too complicated, unlabeled, and minimal for my partner. She did not want to use an app to listen to music. So I switched to vintage Mcintosh gear and the re-issue L 100s. It’s a lot bigger but it sounds fantastic and still has a nice vibe for the living room. And I snuck in a ddrc24.Looks like no one chose Naim
Purchasers of *new* Naim don't usually gravitate to forums, especially one like this.. Used Naim buyers or owners go to Hifi Wigwam or Pink Fish these days I think...Looks like no one chose Naim
I heard about cars doing that and selling the data to insurers who increase your premiums, arbitrarily and without your knowing consent. It's nice to know hifi gear is learning how to rat on its owners tooI don't imagine, I measure. And we aren't talking about comparisons to valve gear. Yamaha amplifiers had no less THD than other gear of the time. When other competing Japanese designs were ruler flat in comparison, Yamaha were not. Some people liked their sound. And they have always been a high dynamic power design with softer supplies than other Japanese manufacturers. That meant inadequate heatsinking and frequent overheating events. And running out of power in the lowest octaves. Very audible.
Kind of like their modern stuff (which I like for mums and dads playing normal level stuff). You know their diagnostics virtually spy on their owners? If you take your amp/receiver in for service, we can tell how many on/off cycles it has had, how many days, hours and minutes it has operated, how loud you had the volume, how many protection events etc.
It's getting out of hand. Soon, they will deny warranty service if you weren't listening to "approved" genres of music... LOL.
They are too busy being incredibly well offPurchasers of *new* Naim don't usually gravitate to forums, especially one like this.. Used Naim buyers or owners go to Hifi Wigwam or Pink Fish these days I think...
Could you please post few examples of such measurements as everything I had seen in the past was flat in the audible region?Not an urban legend.
Yamaha amplifiers from the earliest "natural sound" ranges right through until the early nineties were somewhat lean and bright sounding. Frequency response plots on numerous examples over the decades have shown the same, as have many plots I've run of many vintage Yamahas.
They have a rolled off bottom end in many cases which is why they sounded like they did.
Really?Not an urban legend.
Yamaha amplifiers from the earliest "natural sound" ranges right through until the early nineties were somewhat lean and bright sounding. Frequency response plots on numerous examples over the decades have shown the same, as have many plots I've run of many vintage Yamahas.
They have a rolled off bottom end in many cases which is why they sounded like they did.
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So 5x7 and you are maybe 3m from speakers? Or more?The room in which I would use Focal, Naim or Yamaha is 35 square meters in size
You could even test in your car if you have one. As it is an apartment, I bet you don’t go really loud like I do. So an amp more in the Yamaha range would probably be OK. But it would be better to have some numbers rather than guess.Unfortunately, I can't test because the apartment is currently empty (under renovation), but I could go to the hi-fi store. I am about 3.5 meters away from the speakers.
As far as I am concerned, the girl is totally fine. Just another fellow human being...@Dinko Welcome to ASR
I think i would pick the Yamaha, it has far more functionality and connections. Yamaha also has a more beefy power amp section, so you are basically free to use any speaker you want. 40W@8 sounds a bit limiting if you have a really low sensitivity speaker. Wich your Focals aren't, but you get what i want to say.
BTW, i think NAIMs site has a badly photoshopped picture of a Chora 806 besides their device. The sizes don't match ;-)
It's like the pictures of running pads on Amazon with tiny men and women on them. ;-)
The walking pad is 1.2m long. That makes the girl 1.2m high ;-)
The NAIMs screen is nice and all, but consider that the screen might be 2 or 3 meters away, to me it would be a useless most of the time.
Yamaha has a treble knob for fast adjustment.
Better yet, if you prefer to listen to music at night sometimes, without waking anyone, but you still want a rich sound: they offer a variable loudness. It's a great feature if you like your sound to be rich and warm at the daytime too.
I don't think so, i wouldn't say a 1dB drop at 15Hz or so leads to something sounding lean. I believe they sounded lean because they had, as competent transistor designs, less distortion than their valve peers. Also they came in a very bright silver color sometimes, and silver means it sounds less warm, as we all know.
Anyway, i don't think it applies to this design. Measurements of the R-N803D (the predecessor) shows a neutral response, the specs on Yamahas website and the pictures of the guts indicate the analog parts to be the same.
All that said, maybe the NAIM has a software feature that is worth looking at it still? And what would you have to pay, maybe that should be considered as well.