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CES 2017: Zanden

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My favorite Japanese audio company. As usual Eric Pheils (US distributor but living in Japan) rolled out the red carpet for me for another enjoyable event.
 
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Why build a turntable out of carbon fibre? It is used where extreme light weight and stiffness is needed. A turntable does not need to be (and should not be) light. Here, surely carbon fibre is a solution looking for a problem..?

What is the Low-Mid-High 'Tower of Hanoi' device?
 

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I believe GPA's. Ackground was in composites, the turntable is still quite heavy, I believe the plinth is designed not to store energy ,different thicknesses at different points etc etc.
I wouldn't ever change it ,it does the job, sounds like CD
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CDS just sound weird when you play them on a turntable.
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A turntable does not need to be (and should not be) light. Here, surely carbon fibre is a solution looking for a problem..?

There is a decades long war on this in the TT world.

The "light is better" crowd (originally lead by Linn) believes low mass is the way to go because less energy is stored than in a high mass design and it is released more quickly.

By necessity, that means coupling it with a suspended designed, which then leads to the famous Linn bounce test.
 

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There is a decades long war on this in the TT world.

The "light is better" crowd (originally lead by Linn) believes low mass is the way to go because less energy is stored than in a high mass design and it is released more quickly.

By necessity, that means coupling it with a suspended designed, which then leads to the famous Linn bounce test.
Ah, I didn't know about that. The audiophile world looks at things from strange angles sometimes....
 

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The same two camps exsists in the hifi stand universe too.. Some are high mass and some like mine are low mass...

( that's a observation, not a endorsement of either or recognition of their respective audible effects)
 
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What's that Matt doing in front of the shrine? I take it , it's not to save the carpet underneath?? Grounding/anti static ?
Neither Eric or I knew why it was there. They may have put it there for looks. We both had to straddle it to stand in front of the gear.
 

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Neither Eric or I knew why it was there. They may have put it there for looks. We both had to straddle it to stand in front of the gear.

Looks like a prayer Matt.. The fact you both were afraid to step on it is ...., worrying.

I wish I was there to see you both avoiding stepping on it while changing records etc.. I would definitely be laughing out loud:D

Possibly it was some kind of social experiment, see how steps on it and who don't.
 

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Ah, I didn't know about that. The audiophile world looks at things from strange angles sometimes....

It's not nearly as strange as some of the other crap that happens on the digital side, like magic USB or ethernet cables.

Vibration, mechanical resonances, wow, flutter, speed fluctuations...these are all real things in the turntable world.

And nobody has solved them 100%.
 

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It's not nearly as strange as some of the other crap that happens on the digital side, like magic USB or ethernet cables.

Vibration, mechanical resonances, wow, flutter, speed fluctuations...these are all real things in the turntable world.

And nobody has solved them 100%.
They have: they invented digital.:)
 

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They have: they invented digital.:)

Indeed!

But what they haven't solved is the need of audiophiles to tweak crap.

Every poster on Computer Audiophile should buy a cheap turntable so that he can vent his tweaky nature in a way that a) actually makes a measurable difference (e.g. cartridge capacitance, speed controls) b) doesn't require magical belief systems and c) can never ever be perfected, so it's the gift that keeps on giving.

Then he could just leave his digital side alone.

That would be far less nutty than buying the latest flavor-of-the-month USB-scrubber-jitter-bug-galvanic-ethernet gadget.
 
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Great photos Amir. Thank you. The Grand Prix Monaco TT is one of the best sounding TT's around, IME. It got a very bad rap initially from MF and his review, but I think either MF had cotton wool in his ears that day, or something else ( that he failed to disclose) was a factor. I'm sure this room with the Silverstone set up, the Zanden, The Kharma and the Monaco TT must have sounded excellent. Certainly, IMO, an enviable set-up!
 

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