I switched to miniDSP SHD

[GaryY]

That was sudden decision that I switched to miniSHD.
I feel Bass control is quite easier, but I'm really missing builtin streaming app in Eversolo.
I don't feel comfortable with Volumio. Tidal connect is possible but it's not as stable as Spotify in 3 days experience, so I changed streaming service to spotify though I like Tidal interface more.

Measurement is done without extra EQ, I only used automatic correction parameter.
Crossover : 120Hz, I tried 60 or 80Hz, but couldn't fill out 100~130Hz null with lower cross over.
Delay of Main : 9.2ms, In internet, I saw Arendal sub has 8ms delay. I added 1.8ms to compesate distance as well.

What I don't understand is better distortion and it's not sure because of active USB cable from PC to miniDSP. This cabel is quite long, 4.5m. I can check later if passive/active usb cable can make difference.

Measurement of LR on 17.Feb was with Eversolo for comparison. I really appreciate any advice.
I'm missing really display as well. eversolo streaming + the rest from SHD could have been perfect for me.

Thanks!

 

[MAB]

That was sudden decision that I switched to miniSHD.
I feel Bass control is quite easier, but I'm really missing builtin streaming app in Eversolo.
I don't feel comfortable with Volumio. Tidal connect is possible but it's not as stable as Spotify in 3 days experience, so I changed streaming service to spotify though I like Tidal interface more.

Measurement is done without extra EQ, I only used automatic correction parameter.
Crossover : 120Hz, I tried 60 or 80Hz, but couldn't fill out 100~130Hz null with lower cross over.
Delay of Main : 9.2ms, In internet, I saw Arendal sub has 8ms delay. I added 1.8ms to compesate distance as well.

What I don't understand is better distortion and it's not sure because of active USB cable from PC to miniDSP. This cabel is quite long, 4.5m. I can check later if passive/active usb cable can make difference.

Measurement of LR on 17.Feb was with Eversolo for comparison. I really appreciate any advice.
I'm missing really display as well. eversolo streaming + the rest from SHD could have been perfect for me.

Thanks!

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Regarding the Eversolo functionality... Your Eversolo has digital output, right? Use the digital output to feed the MiniDSP. You get the streaming interface you enjoy, cobined with the DSP functionality of the MiniDSP.

Regarding distortion, I'm not sure I follow what you are saying about USB.

 

[GaryY]

Regarding the Eversolo functionality... Your Eversolo has digital output, right? Use the digital output to feed the MiniDSP. You get the streaming interface you enjoy, cobined with the DSP functionality of the MiniDSP.

Regarding distortion, I'm not sure I follow what you are saying about USB.

Thanks for comment, but unfortunately it was too much to keep DMP-A8 and buy SHD in addition. I sold eversolo. Now it's ok to me only with SHD. I have been getting familiar with it though streaming is not as convenient as A8.
Regarding distrotion, i found nothing is wrong with SHD. It was matter of SPL rate and distortion is as good as with eversolo when I measure with higher target dB.

 

[MAB]

Thanks for comment, but unfortunately it was too much to keep DMP-A8 and buy SHD in addition. I sold eversolo. Now it's ok to me only with SHD. I have been getting familiar with it though streaming is not as convenient as A8.
Regarding distrotion, i found nothing is wrong with SHD. It was matter of SPL rate and distortion is as good as with eversolo when I measure with higher target dB.

Got it.
I also don’t care for Volumio.
Perhaps an inexpensive device like a WiiM?

How to use TIDAL Connect to stream audio to WiiM device on the native TIDAL app?

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faq.wiimhome.com

I got one for my daughter and she is using it to stream, I think she uses Tidal. Perhaps an ASR member who has more experience can chime in.

 

[GaryY]

Got it.
I also don’t care for Volumio.
Perhaps an inexpensive device like a WiiM?

How to use TIDAL Connect to stream audio to WiiM device on the native TIDAL app?

TIDAL Connect allows you to cast or stream music directly from the TIDAL app to WiiM devices without the need for additional hardware like Bluetooth or AirPlay. Here's how you can use TIDAL Connect: 1. Ensure you have the latest version of th...

faq.wiimhome.com

I got one for my daughter and she is using it to stream, I think she uses Tidal. Perhaps an ASR member who has more experience can chime in.

yeah.,,sometime I also think maybe wiim pro plus might be an option to add, but not decided yet. Thanks.

 

[gwing]

Got it.
I also don’t care for Volumio.
Perhaps an inexpensive device like a WiiM?

How to use TIDAL Connect to stream audio to WiiM device on the native TIDAL app?

TIDAL Connect allows you to cast or stream music directly from the TIDAL app to WiiM devices without the need for additional hardware like Bluetooth or AirPlay. Here's how you can use TIDAL Connect: 1. Ensure you have the latest version of th...

faq.wiimhome.com

I got one for my daughter and she is using it to stream, I think she uses Tidal. Perhaps an ASR member who has more experience can chime in.

I'm doing exactly that, listening to Tidal on Wiim Pro Plus, at this very moment

Strictly speaking I don't think Tidal connect is actually streaming to the Wiim. I prefer the Tidal app on PC as a control interface but can also drive it from phone app or from the TV/Firestick, however the music isn't actually streamed from PC/Phone/TV but is instead streamed direct by the Wiim i.e. I can actually power off the PC and have the playlist/selection keep going.

It works very well. You could try a simple Wiim Mini as streamer if Volumio hasn't proved stable enough for you and you want Tidal.

 

[MAB]

yeah.,,sometime I also think maybe wiim pro plus might be an option to add, but not decided yet. Thanks.

Even the WiiM mini should be great.
The added features of Pro models are not used if you are just using for the steaming capabilities.

 

[GaryY]

I'm doing exactly that, listening to Tidal on Wiim Pro Plus, at this very moment

Strictly speaking I don't think Tidal connect is actually streaming to the Wiim. I prefer the Tidal app on PC as a control interface but can also drive it from phone app or from the TV/Firestick, however the music isn't actually streamed from PC/Phone/TV but is instead streamed direct by the Wiim i.e. I can actually power off the PC and have the playlist/selection keep going.

It works very well. You could try a simple Wiim Mini as streamer if Volumio hasn't proved stable enough for you and you want Tidal.

Thanks for comment. Are you using coaxial or optical port between wiim nad minidsp?

 

[GaryY]

Even the WiiM mini should be great.
The added features of Pro models are not used if you are just using for the steaming capabilities.

Yes, you are right and mini looks less than half price of wiim pro plus....Thanks!

 

[shadowmdj]

That was sudden decision that I switched to miniSHD.
I feel Bass control is quite easier, but I'm really missing builtin streaming app in Eversolo.
I don't feel comfortable with Volumio. Tidal connect is possible but it's not as stable as Spotify in 3 days experience, so I changed streaming service to spotify though I like Tidal interface more.

Measurement is done without extra EQ, I only used automatic correction parameter.
Crossover : 120Hz, I tried 60 or 80Hz, but couldn't fill out 100~130Hz null with lower cross over.
Delay of Main : 9.2ms, In internet, I saw Arendal sub has 8ms delay. I added 1.8ms to compesate distance as well.

What I don't understand is better distortion and it's not sure because of active USB cable from PC to miniDSP. This cabel is quite long, 4.5m. I can check later if passive/active usb cable can make difference.

Measurement of LR on 17.Feb was with Eversolo for comparison. I really appreciate any advice.
I'm missing really display as well. eversolo streaming + the rest from SHD could have been perfect for me.

Thanks!

@GaryY Congratulations on your purchase. What is the sound quality difference between Eversolo and Minidsp SHD? Is there any difference at all? Can you still get a 3d soundstage with Dirac on?

 

[GaryY]

@GaryY Congratulations on your purchase. What is the sound quality difference between Eversolo and Minidsp SHD? Is there any difference at all? Can you still get a 3d soundstage with Dirac on?

Hi @shadowmdj, Thanks!
Both of Eversolo and miniSHD are good enough to control frequency response by using EQ/FIR filter(eversolo) or Dirac(miniDSP) for me. However, there was no way to control time delay of subwoofer with eversolo. Also the feature of crossover betweeen main and sub was missing in eversolo and these are 2 reasons of switching to miniDSP. As a streamer, eversolo was better and stable with built in app. Also I Iiked the design of DMP-A8 very much.
If you have sub( or are planning to buy), i would recommned minidsp which is more capable. If not, I don't think there is sonic difference.

 

[shadowmdj]

Hi @shadowmdj, Thanks!
Both of Eversolo and miniSHD are good enough to control frequency response by using EQ/FIR filter(eversolo) or Dirac(miniDSP) for me. However, there was no way to control time delay of subwoofer with eversolo. Also the feature of crossover betweeen main and sub was missing in eversolo and these are 2 reasons of switching to miniDSP. As a streamer, eversolo was better and stable with built in app. Also I Iiked the design of DMP-A8 very much.
If you have sub( or are planning to buy), i would recommned minidsp which is more capable. If not, I don't think there is sonic difference.

Thank you. Yes, Eversolo is stable compared to the lousy volumio in shd. I do have subs. I just placed an order for shd studio. Thanks again.

 

[GaryY]

Thank you. Yes, Eversolo is stable compared to the lousy volumio in shd. I do have subs. I just placed an order for shd studio. Thanks again.

Hmmmm, not sure about studio for sub. Would you use 2 DAC or multichannel DAC?

 

[shadowmdj]

Hmmmm, not sure about studio for sub. Would you use 2 DAC or multichannel DAC?

I will use two dacs.