Yeah, I see your idea there and I agree. They wanted a guarantee and they got that. The consumers want entertainment and a story to follow.Yes, but they were not using it in hifi.
Only in consumer audio there is 'lunacy'.
Yeah, I see your idea there and I agree. They wanted a guarantee and they got that. The consumers want entertainment and a story to follow.Yes, but they were not using it in hifi.
Only in consumer audio there is 'lunacy'.
This is in addition to the original commentary. So to me this commentary is an addendum.>>>I have worked both in the audio (incl. high-end audio) and rail-way industry and the reasons for picking cables differ immensely.
Are there any (cable) manufacturers/sellers that try to sell their wares without claiming they do something better or improve the sound ?
Whenever I need(ed) to specify a cable I look for availability, required specs and price, make a recommendation and purchasing dept. does the rest.This is in addition to the original commentary. So to me this commentary is an addendum.>>>
I know what you speak of although railway gear is another thing altogether. I still see $ value in the need for a guarantee for operation without issue because the end user people are vocational tradespeople and they can't be expected to be responsible so you and others like me charge large for the guarantee(s). I bet you are a major expense for the railway corporation. As an example your EE designing materials alone might be ~into the tens of thousands of dollars per day. For the bean counters you are a major expense. But you make the stuff work so they tolerate you. Your selection of high end cables is not of material significance to the company. They want the cheapest so the shareholders are happy.
Do you have any $ idea what the expense to the company is for the materials that you daily consume as you design the railway's electronics stuff?Whenever I need(ed) to specify a cable I look for availability, required specs and price, make a recommendation and purchasing dept. does the rest.
Whenever someone asks me to recommend an audio cable I look for availability, required specs and price, make recommendation(s) and the buyer decides.
Whenever an audiophile requires a cable he reads/watches reviews and reads up on 'the audio qualities' he finds important [insert all kinds of audiophool nomenclature] and then usually buys something expensive, well reviewed and with looks/connectors he/she/whatever likes the most and falls withing the allocated budget or just above it.
Whenever an ASR member requires a cable he looks for something suited, affordable with sturdy connectors.
As Amir only seems to test some expensive cables ASR members will likely buy something more expensive
My choice for single ended RCA link cable is RG59. Low shield impedance, very good EMI immunity. Low price 2 EUR/m.
Do you have any $ idea what the expense to the company is for the materials that you daily consume as you design the railway's electronics stuff?
OK... sigh* I don't think the disparity is as bad as you say.Audiophool cables cost way more than good industrial cables that can withstand harsh conditions.
In this day and age, I'd think that the language might be altered to expert curated algorithm.I could be wrong, but it looks like it's more silly than just upscaling. The idea is to add ultrasonic harmonics via some "expert approved" algorithm in order to make the music "more emotional"
Are there any (cable) manufacturers/sellers that try to sell their wares without claiming they do something better or improve the sound ?
And silver sounds brighter—of course it does because it just looks brighter. Shiny. They sound shinier. But don’t get those gimmicky “silver tipped copper” cables—they’re drenched in veils…Obviously copper cable sounds warmer and optic cable more transparent....
I've never seen any claims about the sonics of cables at any of the pro audio orientated places I've bought cables from:
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I disagree. We must get the rich to spend their money. If they don't we're all screwed. A $40k Diamond is just a pebble from the ground. It's actual value is a few dollars. But it's retail value is held up by hoarding the supply. Then people with big money have to pay up to get the prestige! We have to keep the money MOVING else the poor will get poorer.Ok, I have for a few years now had Shunyata as the "King" of the snake oil sellers. They represent the worst of the worst. They have it all. Marketing material that is pure rubbish and techno nonsense by the bucket full. I always wish someone with deep pockets could sue them out of existence. Then I foolishly looked at some Audio rags, I mean mags yesterday and saw an ad for Synergistic Speaker Wire I think it was. $28,000 for an 8 foot length. I now have put them at the top tier with Shunyata as both companies need to be hounded out of business. They represent the worst of the audio world. I know I should not be surprised, but I still am at the overwhelming amount of rip off and scam artists that are dominant in the audio industry. Just thought I would mention it today.
Our "hobby" is dominated by low life's, criminals and scammers of the highest order. They are true professionals at their trade.
I use coax myself -- but I prefer this stuff, which is much thinner and thus more flexible than RG59 -- for electric guitar connections, where signal levels are low, impedance is high, and shunt capacitance is the major SQ consideration. Center conductor DCR is relatively high due to its copper-plated steel wire, but that's a non-issue in that application: Belden 8218My choice for single ended RCA link cable is RG59. Low shield impedance, very good EMI immunity. Low price 2 EUR/m.