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ZMF Atrium Closed Headphone Review

Rate this headphone:

  • 1. Poor (headless panther)

    Votes: 188 83.9%
  • 2. Not terrible (postman panther)

    Votes: 19 8.5%
  • 3. Fine (happy panther)

    Votes: 6 2.7%
  • 4. Great (golfing panther)

    Votes: 11 4.9%

  • Total voters
    224
@aravaioli There is nothing wrong with liking what you like. I have enjoyed headphones that objectively probably would measure poorly. It happens. We all get to decide how to spend our money.

Science also leaves room for variation, and clearly there will be people who love this headphone the way it sounds like you do. That doesn't change how it measures either.

I'm glad that you love your new headphone. Enjoy it.
We agree that we all like what we like without any need to justify why.

The point I am making is that I notice here 200 negative votes in the survey, which are mostly based on frequency response and distortion measurements and not in having experienced a listen.

If you listened the headphone and did not like it, no issue at all.
 
This is true for every review here and the purpose of the poll.
When only owners were allowed to vote there might just be 2 or 3 votes and they would all be positive.
 
This is true for every review here and the purpose of the poll.
When only owners were allowed to vote there might just be 2 or 3 votes and they would all be positive.
But former owners may bring the total back to a more realistic number. For example I owned headphones that I'd gladly rate "Terrible" and that owner might rate "golfing panthers". One for all, the LCD-XC 2021.
 
You can increase the negative comments on the XC 2021 from 6 to 7 or is the 6th one from you ? :D

 
Done, now at 7.
I had not realised it was reviewed by Amir. Distortion-free but so piercing in the upper mids that I had to sell it in 2 months for an AHD7200, much more to my taste, and a nice chunck of cash.
 
I believe Zach posted a video, possibly a response of sorts. My only gripe is reviewers will review something in it's stock form, they can't be expected to go research how to tune a headphone. Its not standard practice for any other headphone.

People and reviewers are not stupid for not knowing this, same thing with Super Review and the Bokeh headphone position.

If this a thing, then to make this easier he should have a tuning section for each headphones, with graphs for all the pads with and without tuning mesh etc. However you are now deviating from what is considered stock for the sake of a review.

Saying all that, its OK for a reviewer to have his or her own preference. Just because one reviewer doesn't like the tuning, its OK. I think many do like it so I'd say it's generally a win for ZMF.

Could it affect sales, sure but that is the point of the review process. If the audience knows they align with a particular reviewer then they can choose for themselves.

As for the prices, they are high, but a lot of work and care does go into them. You are also supporting US based employees.

I did have a ZMF one time and I was not a fan of the fit, however it was an early revision Eikon and I believe they may have improved things since. I had no issues with the sound.

One thing I notice is that everyone comments on the look before the sound, more so than any other headphones. However ZMFs looks and each headphones uniqueness is a part of the deal, the experience is about objectifying them a little and that is also OK.
 
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Here is another opinion. Note that I browse both this and the Headfi forum, and despise any hype bandwagon.
I went to the last London Canjam and had no intention to buy a ZMF headphones, essentially because I find them so damn expensive. Their models are a big hit for those into the look of things, and I am exactly at the opposite side of the spectrum: all I care is sound and comfort and I love cheap looking headphones that weigh little, for example the HD490 Pro.
Having said that, I visited the ZMF stand as I did other times in the past and this time I truly loved this model, the Atrium Closed. I tried to talk myself out of the purchase because of the price tag (comfort is really good despite the weight) and, at the end of my visit, I failed in this effort and surrendered to making that remarkable expense I wanted to avoid. And that is an important point I want to make: I did not try to convince that I loved that headphone, I actually tried to do the opposite. It was very easy to do with the Caldera, which is ok, perhaps more than that, but absolutely overpriced in my view.
I realise that this forum is about objective measurements but, in my view, it focuses excessively on distortion. I am not convinced soundstage can be measured (although some attempt to do so) but that is the main factor why I bough it: it has a marvellous enveloping soundstage that is as close as it gets to an open headphone. Sounds comes truly from all directions, including from the back of the ears, as in my Meze Elite. With that said, I also found the frequency response remarkably pleasant, a great balance in between warmth and definition/resolution which are typically antagonistic traits of a headphone: for example the Denon D9200 I used to have is very detailed, great detail definition, but it sounds quite cold and fatiguing. Somehow in the same way, my Dan Clark Aeon 2 Noire, well-respected in this forum, might have less distortion but also an average soundstage and a neutral-to-cold frequency response that I find less pleasant (inviting to listen) than the Atrium Closed.
At that show I also tried the Dan Clark E3, again another favourite of this forum. Now, this one competes and possibly exceeds the technicalities of the Atrium (and the AHD9200), excellent soundstage, very well defined details, possibly more resolving than the Atrium. It came across as a technical marvel rather than a pleasant auditory device. More a sport car than a Cadillac. Besides being even more expensive than the Atrium Closed (at least at that show), I did not feel that I would have wanted to listen to it for very long (I do not listen rock but I am betting those would be really grating for the ears with that genre).
Long story short, my point is that while I see the value of objective measurements, a live experience may reveal preferences that are diverging from the conclusions you might get from the measurements. That is nothing new, I know, but I wonder how many of those who voted have actually hands on experience with this headphone.
Your experience seems like a common one, and was very similar to mine.
 
Your experience seems like a common one, and was very similar to mine.
Probably not and group think is a thing in the audio community. Everything has fan boys and detractors. However everyone has a different set of ears and preference.

I believe Headphones should be mainly rated on the listening experience, graphs should be an aid.
I'll admit I'm not 100% on all of ASR tests it's well above my pay grade. Hopefully there is a KBA to explain it to us mortals.

On the graph side of things, it is good to know your preferred sound or target. However it is good to have a few different headphones that work well with your preferred genres. Example HD650 for acoustic, HD800S for orchestral.

If everything was tuned to Harman it would be boring. Harman is fine but not every headphone needs to follow it.
 
I believe Headphones should be mainly rated on the listening experience, graphs should be an aid.
Pretty much summarises my point. The user rating here inevitably reflects Amir's view.
It would be more interesting if the introductory sentence, rather than a plain "Rate this headphone" was instead "If you have experience with this headphone, rate it here".
 
That, however, would exclude about 99.something % of all readers.
 
These are actually a dynamic, kinda pricey. When Eikon and Atticus released they were about $1000 +/-. That is a fair amount for a boutique dynamic IMO. However the markets dictate the price so my opinion doesn't matter.

I'm wondering what sets this one apart from those that its double the cost? A planar or electrostatic headphone I can sort of understand.

I bought a wooden aliexpress headphone for $78, its actually sort of excellent with a 53mm 32ohm driver. It scratches that fancy wood itch. Its so good I ordered the beryllium closed for $180.
 
Does Amir have any videos where he explains the testing process, I'm actually interested.
 
He mounts the headphone on his test fixture, runs some tests and then writes a review containing relevant test results. ;)
Usually plays with some EQ as well.
 
Reading this as I'm wearing my ZMF Auteur Classics. Are ZMFs a good value? Probably not, but I like the tuning and felt like taking the risk on what seems like a passionate group of people. These Auteur Classics are the only ones I've heard, to be fair. They are very much like the Senn 6xx series, but I hear better clarity side-by-side. They are also my most comfortable pair despite their weight. That said, I do wish I knew how these measured so I could EQ. I just have the bass boosted a bit, but when messing with mids and treble, I can tell they have the potential to sound much better.
 
So they shot the coffee table to make these and they're no good?!
 
Sssooooo about 6% of all ASR readers own or even heard (and liked) the $ 2.5k Atrium closed ?
That's quite a big chunk of the headphone market ASR readers are interested in.

It is more likely that about 6% of the people interested in >1 $k closed wooden headphones might own (and like) the Atrium closed. ;)
 
I just did some quick math and was being tongue in cheek. Putting a percentage on something we have no idea about is just speculation anyway.

I never put any weight or credibility on the poll, as it's all about what people think about the review, and not about what they think about the headphone.
 
Does Amir have any videos where he explains the testing process, I'm actually interested.
YES - Understanding Headphone Measurements

P.S.
Here's another interesting one by Can Clark (headphone manufacturer) - Measurements 101

Ironically, the (amateur) video has poor audio quality...

I remember this one because he says that headphones with more distortion are often described as "more detailed"!
 
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