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I like a little dip in that frequency range, but not 17.5 dbThe newer Sennhesier models also have a small dip in the clarity range (around 2-3kHz) but not nearly as deep.
I like a little dip in that frequency range, but not 17.5 dbThe newer Sennhesier models also have a small dip in the clarity range (around 2-3kHz) but not nearly as deep.
$50? No thanks.$5,000? No thanks.
Nice review, but the Yamaha YH-5000SE leaves me puzzled. Another nice review with measurements, long-term listening experience and background information can be found here:
https://den-fi.com/yamaha-yh-5000se-a-half-century-in-the-making/
There are some very positive subjective reviews of the YH-5000SE not even mentioning the huge deviation from the Harman target curve. I am pretty sure that must be noticeable by almost everybody.
Many people regard owner reviews as one of the most objective sources of information. But when you look at them, I would argue they represent some of the least objective.Nice review, but the Yamaha YH-5000SE leaves me puzzled. Another nice review with measurements, long-term listening experience and background information can be found here:
https://den-fi.com/yamaha-yh-5000se-a-half-century-in-the-making/
There are some very positive subjective reviews of the YH-5000SE not even mentioning the huge deviation from the Harman target curve. I am pretty sure that must be noticeable by almost everybody.
Nice review, but the Yamaha YH-5000SE leaves me puzzled
Not sure what you are puzzled with, here we have an Audiophile friend who has spend a considerable amount of money on a well established brand headphone. The longer he will listen to them, the better they will sound (to him) as his brain is answering the question he his asking himself: aren't those $5,000.00 Yamaha the best ever? And the brain to reply, yes they are.This person believes these and the Susvara are some of the most tonally correct headphones? But we can see from the measurements this is obviously not the case.
Many people regard owner reviews as one of the most objective sources of information. But when you look at them, I would argue they represent some of the least objective.
This person believes these and the Susvara are some of the most tonally correct headphones? But we can see from the measurements this is obviously not the case.
How do they arrive at such conclusions? It probably has much to do with the fact they are not conducting their listening comparisons properly.
Not sure what you are puzzled with, here we have an Audiophile friend who has spend a considerable amount of money on a well established brand headphone. The longer he will listen to them, the better they will sound (to him) as his brain is answering the question he his asking himself: aren't those $5,000.00 Yamaha the best ever? And the brain to reply, yes they are.
If he was to try a pair of $80 IEM with great measurements, he will find they sound very different, but still prefer his $ 5,000.00 reference.
Nothing to be puzzled with.
I should know, I know quite a few Grado fans that genuinely feel anything other than the Grado signature just sounds meh.
I can get used to a lot of different sound signatures - some I even like on quite a few occasions, but coming home to something that is tuned realistically always pulls me back to reality.
Speaking wholly from personal experience here, but when you’ve listened to 300+ headphones and furthermore have gotten your head around a simple frequency response, it is very possible to grok headphones from afar…and well I have NEVER heard a headphone with a massive peak in the midrange that sounds good. Add to that, this is a supposedly TOTL planar magnetic that rolls off in the bass like a dynamic driver headphone meaning you don’t even get the advantage of the planar party trick.190 ratings already on a headphone that costs $5000. Why are people who have never used this headphone rating it?
This site would be more useful to buyers if the only people who rate a headphone are those who have actually tried it.
The rating on this site is not for the headphones themselves but for the measurements of the headphones. People who own these headphones may have subjective biases, so I believe they should refrain from voting.190 ratings already on a headphone that costs $5000. Why are people who have never used this headphone rating it?
This site would be more useful to buyers if the only people who rate a headphone are those who have actually tried it.
The rating on this site is not for the headphones themselves but for the measurements of the headphones. People who own these headphones may have subjective biases, so I believe they should refrain from voting.
I'm not sure if your logic is flawed or if it's a lack of understanding, but if that's what you think, then fine for me. It doesn't really matter to me what you think.So the people who actually know what they are talking about because they have actually used the headphones are the ones who should not vote?
I think you're lacking in logic if that's what you really believe
I'm not sure if your logic is flawed or if it's a lack of understanding, but if that's what you think, then fine for me. It doesn't really matter to me what you think.
It sounds like you’ve completely missed the point of measurements. The fact that something measures perfectly doesn’t in any way, shape or form dictate that you should like it.It matters to me though because I use this website to recommend items for me to buy. I can't have people like you messing things up for me as has happened in the past.
I have purchased items that measured perfectly and were rated highly by people like you, but when I actually used it I was bitterly disappointed with the sound quality. It turns out there's a lot those frequency graphs are missing when it comes to sound quality. So I hope people like you who have not actually used the item think twice about voting in future so i can avoid buying any more duds.
How would you compare the Tanchin One IEM against the Truthear Crinacle zero and 7hz Crinacle zero 2?If you are listening to this headphone and think this is what music is supposed to sound like, I highly recommend you get the aforementioned Tanchin One IEM to appreciate what high fidelity music reproduction is all about. At $27, it is pocket change.
This website is for people who believe there’s a correlation between measurements and experience, so if you feel there’s no correlation, this site is a complete waste of time for you. You’d be better off going to a place like Audiogon.It matters to me though because I use this website to recommend items for me to buy. I can't have people like you messing things up for me as has happened in the past.
I have purchased items that measured perfectly and were rated highly by people like you, but when I actually used it I was bitterly disappointed with the sound quality. It turns out there's a lot those frequency graphs are missing when it comes to sound quality. So I hope people like you who have not actually used the item think twice about voting in future so i can avoid buying any more duds.
This site is already more than use full for buyers, it is essential.This site would be more useful to buyers if the only people who rate a headphone are those who have actually tried it