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Yamaha R-S202 Receiver Review

Rate this stereo receiver:

  • 1. Poor (headless panther)

    Votes: 13 3.9%
  • 2. Not terrible (postman panther)

    Votes: 127 37.9%
  • 3. Fine (happy panther)

    Votes: 153 45.7%
  • 4. Great (golfing panther)

    Votes: 42 12.5%

  • Total voters
    335
FINE maybe I will then! lol .. I'm still curious of the actual answer, if anyone ever sees this :)
The manual does not advise a maximum wire gauge. From my experience, 16 gauge is a good bet.
 
If you are running 12 feet or less of 16 gauge, there will be no performance hit vs 14 ga. or thicker. If your speaker EPDR stays above 2 ohms, you can run longer lengths.

 
Longing for tight punchy bass! Recommendations please...


Source: Hiby R3 Pro Saber ( FLAC - Line Out 2V - 3.5mm to RCA)
Amplifier: Yamaha R-S202 - (2X100W@8ohm)
Speakers: Infinity Reference R263 Towers - 3 way (dual 6-1/2" woofers,5-1/4" flat-piston midrange, 1" dome tweeter, sensitivity 89 dB, impedance 6ohms)
Wiring: 14G OFC bi-wired using A-B speaker connectors (just coz I had the wires lying around, and also to compensate for the strands of copper stripped away to push into the flimsy speaker connectors. Speaker bridge removed.)
Room: 21X17 feet, carpeted bonus room with stair case and hallway openings.
Speaker placement - Toed in to the MLP, approx 10 feet from each speaker. 1.5feet distance on both sides and rear from the walls.

Problem: I am not getting the desired tight bass punch at moderate listening volumes (50-55 mark in the volume dial/display). Since there is no loudness control in the amp, it is not possible to get tight bass at decent volumes. Raising the the volume increases boomy bass and listening uncomfortable. I believe the R-S202 (low current amp?) is not able to provide enough power to the woofers.

Is there any economical solution to squeeze tight bass from this set up?
How about adding a Yamaha NS-SW100 10" 100W Powered Sub from Accessories4Less @ $119.00? I honestly want to keep the music set up pure 2.0.

I wish to upgrade to a Yamaha A-S701 integrated amp - but the $700 tag is pulling me back from going the audiophile way.

If I gather the courage to get the A-S701, will I get the tight bass (expectation from the 240 damping factor) from just the 2.0 R263 setup, without a sub? I missed the last week's sale for around $500.

How about Cambridge Audio AXR100 ($500) or Refurb Emotiva BasXA2 ($492 - but no bass treble controls may be a concern)?

My HT setup at living room:
Denon AVR S750H, Infinity R263C, R152 LR, Fluance 2 way bipolar surrounds, Infinity R12 sub. Audessey room corrected.

In fact, the R263 towers were LR on the HT setup and I moved them to another room for music, once I got the R-S202 in 2023 Q1, a year before Amir did this measurement. I wasnt happy with the boomy bass with the R12 sub though.

Expecting valuable suggestions from the gurus here...
Cheers
AayVee
 
Longing for tight punchy bass! Recommendations please...


Source: Hiby R3 Pro Saber ( FLAC - Line Out 2V - 3.5mm to RCA)
Amplifier: Yamaha R-S202 - (2X100W@8ohm)
Speakers: Infinity Reference R263 Towers - 3 way (dual 6-1/2" woofers,5-1/4" flat-piston midrange, 1" dome tweeter, sensitivity 89 dB, impedance 6ohms)
Wiring: 14G OFC bi-wired using A-B speaker connectors (just coz I had the wires lying around, and also to compensate for the strands of copper stripped away to push into the flimsy speaker connectors. Speaker bridge removed.)
Room: 21X17 feet, carpeted bonus room with stair case and hallway openings.
Speaker placement - Toed in to the MLP, approx 10 feet from each speaker. 1.5feet distance on both sides and rear from the walls.

Problem: I am not getting the desired tight bass punch at moderate listening volumes (50-55 mark in the volume dial/display). Since there is no loudness control in the amp, it is not possible to get tight bass at decent volumes. Raising the the volume increases boomy bass and listening uncomfortable. I believe the R-S202 (low current amp?) is not able to provide enough power to the woofers.

Is there any economical solution to squeeze tight bass from this set up?
How about adding a Yamaha NS-SW100 10" 100W Powered Sub from Accessories4Less @ $119.00? I honestly want to keep the music set up pure 2.0.

I wish to upgrade to a Yamaha A-S701 integrated amp - but the $700 tag is pulling me back from going the audiophile way.

If I gather the courage to get the A-S701, will I get the tight bass (expectation from the 240 damping factor) from just the 2.0 R263 setup, without a sub? I missed the last week's sale for around $500.

How about Cambridge Audio AXR100 ($500) or Refurb Emotiva BasXA2 ($492 - but no bass treble controls may be a concern)?

My HT setup at living room:
Denon AVR S750H, Infinity R263C, R152 LR, Fluance 2 way bipolar surrounds, Infinity R12 sub. Audessey room corrected.

In fact, the R263 towers were LR on the HT setup and I moved them to another room for music, once I got the R-S202 in 2023 Q1, a year before Amir did this measurement. I wasnt happy with the boomy bass with the R12 sub though.

Expecting valuable suggestions from the gurus here...
Cheers
AayVee
Not even for considerable amount of money (near field oversized monitors sure but even that up to mid field). Pore people build their towers and it's still not a easy path to get there. Standalone DSP or multichannel something paird with two (or 4) 10~12" preferably closed bufel design (2.2 stereo). It doesn't have to be expensive but it adds up anyway and good standalone DSP's aren't exactly with good availability in most parts of the world and even with such you won't get more than basic equal loudness compensation and will stil nead to apply filters by hand. Other way involve PC and audio card or interface which for most creators is not a problem, add in and good part of general population which is ready to hustle with it. Today you can get a mini (ATX - TX) brick with ram and (some) storage to act as storage, server and central DSP for about 500 $ (with PCI-E audio card) tho add around 100$ for software and you are there (not really you still have to do it you only have hardware and software that far).
 
Boomy bass is a room issue. You're going to have to move the speakers and/or listening position, get EQ, or go insane with room treatments. Usually pulling them further from the walls will help, but room modes can be tricky so don't give up if that doesn't work.

I wouldn't throw money at it unless you have exhausted all other possibilities. Listening position and speaker position are by far the biggest issues you are dealing with.

Here's the published speaker response:

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