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Yamaha C-2 Review (Vintage Preamplifier)

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Hello Everyone,

This is a review and detailed measurements of the Yamaha C-2 preamplifier.

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Yamaha C-2 - Presentation

The Yamaha C-2 is a vintage preamplifier that was available from 1976 to 1978. It was the little brother of the crazy expensive C-1 which I encourage you to lookup on the web.

Anyways, this more modest C-2 was not cheap as it would reach $3'000 is today's money! Despite the slim look, this is a relatively heavy one, at near 7.8kg (17.2lbs)

As you can see from the front face, it offers the essential:
  • MM and MC phono inputs
  • Tone controls (no defeat button)
  • A subsonic filter (too often forgotten in modern preamps)
  • A mute button that reduces the output gain by 20dB
  • Several modes of operation (mono, stereo, inverted polarity)
Yamaha published the below specifications:
YamC2_Specs.jpg


From the above, we can suspect a good performer, from 50 years ago!

And, as I'd love to see every time, Yamaha also published the below measurements:

YamC2_Measures_01.jpg


It will be my pleasure to go check if I find the same!

On the front panel, the words “Natural Sound” are printed, and I guess it is an elegant way of saying “transparent.” Based on the specifications and the limited measurements we get, this holds true. Notably, Yamaha still uses the “Natural Sound” branding on its current products.

Let's have a quick look at the back:

Yam_C-2_002.jpg


Yeah, we have 3 phono inputs... and two pre-out, and possibility to connect two tape deck.


User experience

Not much to say, honestly, except that it is easy to use. The balance is a ring around the volume knob, not practical if you ask me.

The finish of this Yamaha is quite good, and the thick aluminum front and top panels provide the happy owner with a luxury touch. As opposed to the Accuphase preamps I previously reviewed, the volume knob does not have that silky touch, but it is more than ok. All buttons are aluminum made, and that again says a lot about the quality.

And sorry, no pictures of the inside, I simply did not find the time. I'll correct that in the future but they are easy to find on the web.


Yamaha C-2 - Measurements (Line)

All measurements performed with an E1DA Cosmos ADCiso (grade 0), and the Cosmos Scaler (100kohms from unbalanced input). I used a SMSL PS200 as the generator of the test tones.
I previously reviewed the Accuphase C-200X, released couple of years later. I encourage you to compare the measurements since I kept them aligned for that purpose.

The channel imbalance of the Yamaha is a small 0.1dB and the phase is almost flat (+-8°).

Let's start with the standard 1kHz at max gain (roughly 15.3dB), from a 0.5Vrms input, meaning 2.9Vrms output:

YamC2_1kHz_0.5V2.9V_line.jpg


This is much less gain than the Accuphase C-200X, but we get a SINAD of 104.5dB, and that is more than 17bits of resolution. The distortion is very low and so the limit is only the low level noise. I was honestly not expecting that good.

Let's try the same at unity gain, with 2.2Vrms input/output:

YamC2_1kHz_2.2V_UnityGain.jpg


Wow, this time it's even better than the Accuphase. I am impressed. That typically means that the CD Audio signal is preserved, well done for a device that was born way before the CDA.

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Note that there is a small PS leakage as we can see on the zoomed view below:

YamC2_PS.jpg


You can see a spike at 50Hz (Europe), but @-120dBr, it will remain hidden into music.

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Let's continue with the famous Multitone, from the AudioPrecision file that Amir shared a while ago:

YamC2_MT_AP.jpg


The Yamaha has less distortion than the Accuphase C-200X so I had to increase the scale to go down to -140dB. Besides few spikes, we see more than 20bits of distortion-free range!

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Next, bandwidth and phase:

YamC2_BW_Phase.jpg


This is very flat, no suprises.

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The below is a measurement of THD+N ratio vs frequency, with an extended bandwidth to capture all distortion and noise components up to 90kHz:

YamC2_THDNvsFreq_R.jpg


The trace is nearly the same as with the Accuphase C-200X, and no increase of distortion at high frequencies. Seeing that type of performance from a 50 years old device, well... no comments.

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Let's move on to intermodulation test, with the IDM SMPTE (60Hz & 7kHz 4:1) sweep vs input level:

YamC2_IMDSMPTE_vs_LVL_R.jpg


Again, the Yamaha beats the Accuphase C-200X, and gets very close to the C-280. Nice.

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Other measurements (not shown):
  • Input voltage clipping: above 4Vrsm (I can't go higher more with unbalanced).
  • Output voltage clipping: above 10Vrms (I can't measure more).
  • Dynamic Range (CCIR 2k weighted): from 101dB at unity gain to 117dB at max gain.
  • IMD AES (18kHz + 20kHz 1:1) : below -119dB from unity gain and above!
The above are very good results.

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Oh, and I will add a view of the tones influence at maximum:

YamC2_ToneControl.jpg


There's no "Defeat" button for the tones, and the green line is when set at 0. The others are at -10/+10. This is nicely done.

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Last, and since Yamaha showed it in their measurements, this is a view of the subsonic filter:

YamC2_SubSonic.jpg


It's the same as documented.

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With all the above, I state that the line stage of this preamplifier offered staggering performances in 1976. And so, that is the "Natural Sound" of Yamaha. I'm ok with that! :p


Yamaha C-2 - Measurement (Phono MM)

This is a thoughtfully designed line‑stage amplifier, and as usual, I’m particularly looking forward to the phono stage, where vintage equipment has always shone.

Let's start with the standard SINAD, with an input of 40mVrms and 40dB gain:

YamC2_1kHz_40mV_40dBGain_MM.jpg


This is the signal as it comes out from the Phono preamp, meaning I did not compensated the RIAA curve. The results are very good, nearly identical to that of the Accuphase C-200X, I am again impressed.

Now, let's correct the RIAA curve, with the software, to simulate how a record would be created, with the opposite curve:

YamC2_1kHz_40mV_40dBGain_MM_RIAA.jpg


With that view, the Yamaha C-2 does even better than the amazing Accuphase C-280.

Note: I use a 40mVrms input for that test because some dynamic cartridges (eg: Shure M44-7 - 9mVrms for 5cm/sec), together with over-cut records, would be reaching a speed velocity of 30cm/sec, meaning they'd reach or go beyond 60mVrms. And to add to that, I'm using a 40dB gain amplification, as this is very common, and so with 40mVrms at the input, we get 4Vrms at the output, for the above test.

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Next set of measurements for a phono preamp is related to the above. It is important to know at what point it will clip, depending on the frequency. We need a good headroom, and all vintage phono preamps were known to excel on that perspective.
This is measured with a sweep of THD vs input level, at different frequencies:

YamC2_BW_MM_THDvsInput.jpg


As opposed to the measurements of Yamaha, the first sine I used is 100Hz instead of 20Hz, this is to align with my other reviews.

One more time, the headroom we get from this phono stage is nothing else than crazy, although a little less that with the previously mentioned Accuphase. That said, 300mVrms at 1kHz before clipping, wow...

Please appreciate also the very low level of distortion on these tets. No record player needs that good.

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Ok, bandwidth, as we need to check the respect of the RIAA curve:

YamC2_BW_MM.jpg


A +0.1 dB bump at 50 Hz is hardly enough to make the sound warm, yet one has to wonder whether Yamaha did this deliberately. Considering the rest of the stellar performance (in 1976), I think it is plausible.

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Oh, yes, for the fun, as @amirm likes the below measurement. It is a sweep of THD only (no noise) with an extended bandwidth up to 90kHz to capture distortion at high frequencies too:

YamC2_THDvsFreq10mV_MM_LR.jpg


The left channel exhibits more distortion below 1 kHz, though it’s easily hidden with a turntable as the source. At 1 kHz, the Yamaha once again narrowly outperforms the Accuphase C‑200X by a hair.


Conclusion

Very low distortion, low noise, high headroom, and a flat frequency response, this is what Yamaha refers to as “Natural Sound.”

It is always a great pleasure to test these vintage devices, especially when they perform at such a high level. The C‑2 outperformed every source available at the time, which is arguably the best definition of transparency. So much so, in fact, that even the Compact Disc pairs effortlessly with this preamp.

Yamaha has long been one of my favorite brands, and testing this unit has only strengthened that appreciation. i wish I still had my C-6 to run the same tests!

I hope you enjoyed this review and I wish you a lovely weekend.

Flo
 
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A classic! Thanks for another great review @NTTY!! :cool:
 
Shocked out how good that is for the 1970's. That is one of the things I have always loved about Yamaha claiming a natural sound. They mean flat with low distortion, which is exactly what you want from your devices.

Another excellent review. Thank you!
 
Nice review. I service quite a bit of vintage stereo equipment. I won't work on Yamaha C-60, C-80 preamps. Too many problems.
 
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Nice! But I think it's 1 kHz at 300 mV, not 10 kHz, at clipping (typo?). And someone please explain the strange Bass control specs in Specifications. +2 dB max at 50 Hz - that seems quite wrong, or I don't get it.
 
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Nice! But I think it's 1 kHz at 300 mV, not 10 kHz, at clipping (typo?).
Typo indeed, I updated, thanks ;)
And someone please explain the strange Bass control specs in Specifications. +2 dB max at 50 Hz - that seems quite wrong, or I don't get it.
Indeed, it is wrong.
 
And so much for the need of tone defeat buttons , with competent design it’s not an issue and never was .

I thinks it’s one of the bad fashion the audiophile era brought to the table , if every true audiophile press the bypass button why spend any effort on the tone control circuit it . For added consumer satisfaction it can even be a bit noisy so the dear audiophile can feel good and hear the difference when used ;)

Will keep an eye on the used market , this in kind of obtainable.

Go find some Luxman pre amps of the era :)
 
Thank you for your review
This Yamaha was a very good pre amp and I almost bought one second hand in the late 80’s.
My power amp at the time was a quite big Musical Fidelity, can’t remenber the exact model, and I borrowed a used Yamaha C-2 and a used Luxman 5C50 and compared them for a week.
I fell for the Luxman, I just loved the warm dynamic sound.
Unfortunately, my Luxman broke down after just a couple of years.
 
Better tell me how much it is needed in the path, is it better directly from the DAC to the power supply?
 
Bravo! This magnificent test demonstrates the excellence of Japanese engineering, which was so heavily criticized by audiophile propaganda that touted the musicality of electronics with sometimes barely adequate performance.
If Yamaha had only produced high-end products, its reputation would be equal to or even surpass that of Accuphase, a brand also Japanese, which was vilified by many audiophiles in the 1980s for its coldness and anti-musical character.
 
You REALLY make me feel old!!!! Much thanks for the review.

We had the C2 and B2 on dem for a while I remember and took the bloomin' things totally for granted if memory serves!!! The C1 was and is bonkers, but the C2 rather more manageable. I bet they're not cheap on the used market (I haven't checked) but the performance of this fifty year old example is incredible really. Sad that the components available to UK makers didn't seem as good and even Quad amps of the 70s are in need of refurbishment as caps age too much and soon...
 
Indeed the C-2 was better than the audio sources at that time until the CD was introduced some years later. One should know that in the C-2 a special IC types containing FETs NEO6001 and NEO6003 was used as front end of the amplifiers. It may be hard to get replacement when broken. This happened to me at my M-80 power amp where a similar type was used. Did not get adequate replacement, now it is laying around to rip off parts for my M-85 if needed.
 
The C2 exemplified the excellent Yamaha esthetic of the day. It's nice to see that after all those years it still performs well.

Still, back in its day I had recently purchased on an Apt Holman preamp which certainly wouldn't have traded for the Yamaha. Amir measured an Apt Holman here a few years ago, (HERE). I note that the Yamaha arguably slightly out performs the Apt assuming NTTY and Amir's results are directly comparable.

Here is a picture of my own Apt Holman that I very much regret selling a few years ago.

AptHolman_front.jpg
 
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