WTFPLAY

[Reddy]

i have tested the last release wtfplay 0.7, the improvement is very impressive. more transparency and details,for me the best free player


http://wtfplay-project.org

 

[bravomail]

foobar2000 for the win just combination of playing,WASAPI, ASIO and some useful encoding plugins makes it perfect for me. It runs on Android too! My previous favorite was WinAmp 2.xx. Command line and Linux only - very niche, for sysadmins?

 

[Reddy]

my previous favorite was extrem reduced win server in ram with fidelizer pro and mqn player.

 

[manueljenkin]

i have tested the last release wtfplay 0.7, the improvement is very impressive. more transparency and details,for me the best free player


http://wtfplay-project.org

+1 It sounds fantastic. On windows, hysolid is decent, and bass library based players - winyl, musicbee, etc are passable but better than foobar. Have you tried XXhighend?

 

[Soniclife]

i have tested the last release wtfplay 0.7, the improvement is very impressive. more transparency and details,for me the best free player

How did you determine this?

 

[q3cpma]

Bullshit and closed source.
>TODO: Add support for gapless playback.
>basically cmus or mpd but worse
>no mention of replaygain anywhere
Pure gold. It's basically selling rice to people who never riced their setup.

 

[manueljenkin]

Bullshit and closed source.
>TODO: Add support for gapless playback.
>basically cmus or mpd but worse
>no mention of replaygain anywhere
Pure gold. It's basically selling rice to people who never riced their setup.

You forgot that it doesn't cost a dime. Anyone can use it for free. It is bitperfect by design, so replaygain will not be implemented.

 

[manueljenkin]

How did you determine this?

Obviously using one of the few senses we are gifted with!

 

[q3cpma]

You forgot that it doesn't cost a dime.

Like almost all software on GNU/Linux; including the mentioned cmus and mpd.

Anyone can use it for free.

But people who want to use their computer for real cannot modify it for their purpose.

It is bitperfect by design, so replaygain will not be implemented.

Well, it's definitely for easy-to-fool audiophiles, then.

But really, releasing a music player without gapless playback is a bad joke that makes it unfit for anyone caring about quality; especially when it's very easy to implement, just don't reopen the device if the format doesn't change between tracks.
The damage done to classical music and more particularly operas is way more important than the placebo additions.

 

[Mnyb]

Bit perfect player software does not generally sound different.

There is not any need for bit perfect in all situations it is not a goal in itself.

 

[manueljenkin]

Like almost all software on GNU/Linux.

But people who want to use their computer for real cannot modify it for their purpose.

Well, it's definitely for easy-to-fool audiophiles, then.

But really, releasing a music player without gapless playback is a bad joke that makes it unfit for anyone caring about quality; especially when it's very easy to implement, just don't reopen the device if the format doesn't change between tracks.
The damage done to classical music and more particularly operas is way more important than the placebo additions.

You speak for yourself. Not everyone needs to have the same needs or interests as you do. For me, an os without any distractions and easy commandline - just a few tabs to make things play is something that I find quick and enjoyable. Live cd, so no need to partition and install either, only to have the boot messed up again by a windows update.

 

[Soniclife]

But really, releasing a music player without gapless playback is a bad joke that makes it unfit for anyone caring about quality; especially when it's very easy to implement, just don't reopen the device if the format doesn't change between tracks.
The damage done to classical music and more particularly operas is way more important than the placebo additions.

Completely agree, and a ton of other genres are also affected. I view this as effectively producing 100% distortion on a regular basis. Even apple worked this out over a decade ago.

 

[Soniclife]

Obviously using one of the few senses we are gifted with!

I'm guessing from this response it wasn't common sense, or hearing only. Imagination isn't a sense.

 

[manueljenkin]

I'm guessing from this response it wasn't common sense, or hearing only. Imagination isn't a sense.

Armchair opinions, thinking every audible parameter is covered with a limited subset of measurements (most of them static or steady state) isn't common sense either.

Science often can't prove that something can never occur. It's just a framework to predict the behavior and outcome of something using past experiences, experiments and reasoning. They may anytime be over written.

 

[Killingbeans]

To be fair, "more transparency and details" could mean "see through GUI and thorough documentation"

 

[Soniclife]

Armchair opinions, thinking every audible parameter is covered with a limited subset of measurements (most of them static or steady state) isn't common sense either.

Science often can't prove that something can never occur. It's just a framework to predict the behavior and outcome of something using past experiences, experiments and reasoning. They may anytime be over written.

In this case a specific claim has been made, on a scientific forum, so we expect evidence to back this up. Got any evidence?

 

[Mnyb]

Seems less than useless, text based gui plays files from local storage only , what do you even as remote control?

Also no network so you can’t use Remote Desktop or VNC or similar from a tablet to control

 

[Mnyb]

Are these trolls put them on ignore ? There is whole audiophile subculture around software players and OS optimisation , it’s all basically BS the usual sighted tested and cognitive bias apply .

This program would be easy to test as I connects to USB DAC.

 

[manueljenkin]

In this case a specific claim has been made, on a scientific forum, so we expect evidence to back this up. Got any evidence?

I don't really see any IEEE or other certifications on this forum. Neither do I see proper citations for opinions being posted here. So I doubt I can take things said here to be "scientifically" correct as of present state of understanding.

You're certainly eligible to expect evidence to get convinced no doubt. It certainly is your personal choice. Unfortunately I don't have evidence as of now. I do know people who have measured difference between foobar and bass library based players, both in asio and wasapi both, but I don't have equipment to. Maybe if you can gift/loan me an analyser or ADC of high quality, I could likely measure and show.

 

[Soniclife]

Are these trolls put them on ignore

The do seem like trolls, but if they are not challenged they will overrun the place with their delusions, and this forum will go the same was as others.