JayGilb
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They still have the best engineers in the world and they work at HPE designing enterprise and super computer systems.
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Would you rather be a golden-ear audiophile or cloth-ear music lover?
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OK, glad to hear it. Obviously, the analog and RF guys are down the road.
I wouldn't mind trying out what I've never been able to hear.
JayGilb
Major Contributor
in 1995 HP split into HP and HPE, not sure how the split went along engineering lines.
Killingbeans
Major Contributor
Ohh... I read it as people who love the smell of their own farts.
Still have no problem voting cloth-ear though. Ignorance is bliss, and I imagine incompetence also is to some degree. If I need actual critical listening done at some point, I won't mind outsourcing it
Killingbeans
Major Contributor
Doesn't even have to be about intelligence.
Trying to move a firm convictions with logic and reasoning is like pouring water on a deep-fryer fire.
Hearing aids or drugs.
I doubt a hearing aid would benefit me.
I can add or subtract the dead zone with (massive) shelving EQ and no audible difference is noted. My defect would seem to be in the nature of a "brick wall" filter. I blame, for lack of a better idea, "genetics", as I first noted the loss at age 8 or so, when Dad played a test record and neither I nor Mom could hear more than part of it.
Drugs, I'll leave in my box of past pleasures, unless you have in mind a specific therapeutic available at the pharmacy.
Don't you peeps in Florida have access to medical cannabis. It's covered under medical insurance here in Canada for certain illnesses.
Prior experience would indicate that even if I were to figure out how to obtain a prescription, it would have no effect upon my defliction.
Peterinvan
Senior Member
Harman for Golden Ears Only?
I am now 75 and my audiologist reports that my upper frequencies drop several DB starting at about 6KHz. Using SineGen.exe, I cannot hear anything beyond 10KHz.
I therefore find that brighter equipment suits me better. My listening enjoyment factor is still great.
When the experts (Harman) develop their "ideal" FR chart, what age group are they using, and what quality ears?
I am now 75 and my audiologist reports that my upper frequencies drop several DB starting at about 6KHz. Using SineGen.exe, I cannot hear anything beyond 10KHz.
I therefore find that brighter equipment suits me better. My listening enjoyment factor is still great.
When the experts (Harman) develop their "ideal" FR chart, what age group are they using, and what quality ears?
Is cloth eared audiophile taken I never hear the lifted veils these days
I never hear the lifted veils these days
I love music, I love listening to it always, everywhere and by any means, headphones, bluetooth speakers, hifi audio systems, radios.....
So I consider it a healthy blessing to have cloth ears. I never lose the pleasure of listening to music, even with really basic instruments, the only limit is the smartphone, with that I really can't....
I can barely recognize a 128kbs MP3 from a lossless file (depends on track) so let alone 16 by 24 bit....
I'm happy like this, and if I could learn to distinguish compression artifacts I wouldn't want to, because I know that then I wouldn't hear anything else and I'd lose my superpower, which is to always enjoy music, at every listening level.
So I consider it a healthy blessing to have cloth ears. I never lose the pleasure of listening to music, even with really basic instruments, the only limit is the smartphone, with that I really can't....
I can barely recognize a 128kbs MP3 from a lossless file (depends on track) so let alone 16 by 24 bit....
I'm happy like this, and if I could learn to distinguish compression artifacts I wouldn't want to, because I know that then I wouldn't hear anything else and I'd lose my superpower, which is to always enjoy music, at every listening level.
That's why I stick to 1kHz test tones and dummy loads. Those trolls have the right idea!Is cloth eared audiophile taken
dasdoing
Major Contributor
ignorance is a blessing they say.....and it's valid for everything
Strange result of the vote so far...
Audiophile = Music lover
So you are choosing between:
Golden ears = good hearing
and
Cloth ears = bad hearing
Majority of voters so far seem to want bad hearing!
Obviously the result says more about the negative connotations of the term golden eared audiophile around here. Whilst music lover has no such negative association.
Audiophile = Music lover
So you are choosing between:
Golden ears = good hearing
and
Cloth ears = bad hearing
Majority of voters so far seem to want bad hearing!
Obviously the result says more about the negative connotations of the term golden eared audiophile around here. Whilst music lover has no such negative association.
dasdoing
Major Contributor
you don't understand. If your ears are too good you have a hard time as a music lover
Nope, I understand perfectly. The choice posed is still between good hearing and bad. I'd rather have good.
(Of course it might make listening to badly mastered tracks a grating experience, but I'd either avoid them or put up with them, depending on how much I liked the track).
dasdoing
Major Contributor
I remember when I started having sex, almost every woman would turn me on and I would lay with all I could get. Now my taste is so refined, not only are the desired women rare, but they also do not desire a guy like me hahaha. I would give a lot to be able to go back lol
Taken to the extreme "cloth-eared"= deaf
So in your analogy "cloth-eared music lover" would be like being married to your most desired woman but being impotent and unable to touch her.