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Would like to see comments on the youtube video "The BEST HIFI Power quality video you will see in 2023 visiting inakustik"

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I came across this a few hours ago and watched parts of it and thought I would "share" it here and am curious what others think, particularly the "Proving Theory" section. I am cracking up as I am typing this. Here is the video link....

 
 
At 24:50 he says the power conditioner has ‘extremely fast power distribution’. I don’t really know anything about electricity and I don’t have any formal education in anything related to it, but is ‘slow’ electricity ever a problem? How would ‘slow’ electricity audibly affect the system?
 
At 24:50 he says the power conditioner has ‘extremely fast power distribution’. I don’t really know anything about electricity and I don’t have any formal education in anything related to it, but is ‘slow’ electricity ever a problem? How would ‘slow’ electricity audibly affect the system?
Since he fabricated the term, it could mean whatever he thinks it means ;)
 
is ‘slow’ electricity ever a problem? How would ‘slow’ electricity audibly affect the system?
A clue: have you ever heard of "slow" power distribution causing a problem in any other context?

If not - maybe it's not a real problem in audio, either.

This video just had to do the one thing 'audiophile' power product manufacturers never do, which is show the impact on an actual audio signal. Oh well, maybe someday they will show us these various obvious differences in sound in a visual format, until then we'll just have to rely on sighted listening tests from people who often vested interests in lying about their equipment.
 
Wasn't it Darko or someone who extolled the virtues of these doorstoppers on top of cheap DACs?

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Yes, here: https://darko.audio/2022/01/an-update-on-hi-fi-doorstops/

 
Maybe with this new technology, power cords won't matter anymore and we can go back to the normal ones :D:facepalm:
 
I watched the video. Both the explanations and measurements are rudimentary. Importantly, as is typical, none show the actual effect on output of any audio equipment! They talk as if these are ready problems. If so, how come everyone is not hearing hum and buzz? And why is it so hard to hear those artifacts as to need these boxes? They show a block diagram of a power supply. Why not show a real one and show its output having the problems they talk about?

Yes, you can have ground leakage between two pieces of audio equipment. A proper test of that would involve actually connecting the two with RCA cable, not just letting them sit with two pieces of audio equipment that are not safety grounded. At one moment he puts his hand on the AVR and the voltage he measures sinks way down. This shows that if you had connected the two together, the measured voltage would be much lower.

But let's say there is a voltage differential. Listen to the gear. Do you hear it? If not, then there is no problem. Indeed, almost every RCA connection has ground currents. It is just that our hearing is extremely insensitive to low frequencies. If there is audible problem, the solution is to use balanced interconnects that don't use the chassis ground at all. Not to go out and buy some expensive power distribution box.

As to DC offset, it can be there and if it is, it usually causes mechanical hum in transformers and such. If you are not hearing that, then you don't have that problem either.

I have done a full video on audio power tweaks:

 
In the video, both the Sony CD player and the Marantz AVR are double insulated, unearthed products. The 'voltage' he showed is just parasitic coupling from the transformers' to the chassis or in the case of the AVR, perhaps also a Y capacitor to chassis. It is of such high impedance that no current of any significance flows and as soon as they are connected with an RCA lead as @amirm said, any potential between them disappears.

It's how HiFi has been for decades, ever since the widespread implementation of class ii (unearthed) wiring became the norm. I would argue there are more problems with actual earthed products than double insulated due to multiple ground loops being formed.

DC offset really only causes noise IME with the odd toroidal transformer or two, but on the whole it is yet another non-problem.
 
I think I'll go with one of those new fangled bluetooth wireless power cords...
 
I watched the video. Both the explanations and measurements are rudimentary. Importantly, as is typical, none show the actual effect on output of any audio equipment! They talk as if these are ready problems. If so, how come everyone is not hearing hum and buzz? And why is it so hard to hear those artifacts as to need these boxes? They show a block diagram of a power supply. Why not show a real one and show its output having the problems they talk about?

Yes, you can have ground leakage between two pieces of audio equipment. A proper test of that would involve actually connecting the two with RCA cable, not just letting them sit with two pieces of audio equipment that are not safety grounded. At one moment he puts his hand on the AVR and the voltage he measures sinks way down. This shows that if you had connected the two together, the measured voltage would be much lower.

But let's say there is a voltage differential. Listen to the gear. Do you hear it? If not, then there is no problem. Indeed, almost every RCA connection has ground currents. It is just that our hearing is extremely insensitive to low frequencies. If there is audible problem, the solution is to use balanced interconnects that don't use the chassis ground at all. Not to go out and buy some expensive power distribution box.

As to DC offset, it can be there and if it is, it usually causes mechanical hum in transformers and such. If you are not hearing that, then you don't have that problem either.

I have done a full video on audio power tweaks:

I have to ask you, did you checkle or shake your head when you watched the "proof"? They should watch your videos to see how to demonstrate whether or not there is an improvement.
 
I have to ask you, did you checkle or shake your head when you watched the "proof"? They should watch your videos to see how to demonstrate whether or not there is an improvement.
My thought was how easily people would think, "oh he has measurement proof so there you objectivists!" The tactic here is to talk technical at just one level above an audiophile without engineering degree and they look credible no matter what they say.
 
Wasn't it Darko or someone who extolled the virtues of these doorstoppers on top of cheap DACs?

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Yes, here: https://darko.audio/2022/01/an-update-on-hi-fi-doorstops/

Lol well spotted. As someone who studied AC theory, I can safely say no power cord is ever going to make a difference to your hi-fi system. A power conditioner, maaaaaybe.
 
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