Sounds like we should just eliminate the tweeter entirely, and only have a super tweeter. Problem solved!
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Imagine my excitement Hi-Fi News review the new B&W 803D4 loudspeaker, the magazine promises , lab by Paul Miller’ but nothing nada rien,
very disappointing, please Hi-Fi News can we have our measurements back.
Keith
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very disappointing, please Hi-Fi News can we have our measurements back.
Keith
B&W 803 D4 Loudspeaker
This downsized, but perfectly-proportioned, facsimile of B&W's 801 D4 flagship is smaller in all but sound... It's all good and well lusting after a flagship like the B&W 801 D4 [HFN Nov '21], but not everyone has the means or opportunity. Cue the 803 D4, which is a modestly downsized version...
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Agree, that's disappointing...Imagine my excitement Hi-Fi News review the new B&W 803D4 loudspeaker, the magazine promises , lab by Paul Miller’ but nothing nada rien,
very disappointing, please Hi-Fi News can we have our measurements back.
Keith
B&W 803 D4 Loudspeaker
This downsized, but perfectly-proportioned, facsimile of B&W's 801 D4 flagship is smaller in all but sound... It's all good and well lusting after a flagship like the B&W 801 D4 [HFN Nov '21], but not everyone has the means or opportunity. Cue the 803 D4, which is a modestly downsized version...
Hifi-voice have measured them though.
Here's a link:
Bowers&Wilkins 803 D4
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Is that a review? It seems to be all copied from a B&W brochure. I don't think the "reviewer" even listened to them at all.
Imagine my excitement Hi-Fi News review the new B&W 803D4 loudspeaker, the magazine promises , lab by Paul Miller’ but nothing nada rien,
very disappointing, please Hi-Fi News can we have our measurements back.
Keith
B&W 803 D4 Loudspeaker
This downsized, but perfectly-proportioned, facsimile of B&W's 801 D4 flagship is smaller in all but sound... It's all good and well lusting after a flagship like the B&W 801 D4 [HFN Nov '21], but not everyone has the means or opportunity. Cue the 803 D4, which is a modestly downsized version...
I don't think that's a review actually.
But Hi-Fi News measurements are pretty cursory even when it is. I usually only read them by accident (or following a link in a thread like this).
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People, please post the source/links too, for above measurements
PS Audio aspen FR20 Loudspeaker Lab Report
Lab Report Is the FR20 a diminutive FR30 [HFN Jun '22]? In terms of the crossover points, ABR performance, distortion and impedance trend it is, while the physical separation of woofers and mid/treble drivers in the FR20 has more to do with PS Audio utilising the floor boundary reinforcement to...
Wow...PS Audio! That's bad!
Post in thread 'PS Audio FR20 speakers - First impressions'
https://audiosciencereview.com/foru...speakers-first-impressions.44388/post-1599502
They do suggest that it was a damaged speaker and that HFN will retest.
The Voxactiv line takes a lot of the same design philosophies as Lowther (German vs. UK single driver).
The Stereophile measurements are neat for seeing the 1/6 octave smoothing versus higher resolution results.
Lii audio (China) supports measurements but argues that the smoothened response is what is reflective of what you hear.
Home measuring VS judging with your ears
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This is not wrong, but an inherently smoother frequency response is *also* smoother to your ears when smoothened. I am always surprised that these single driver speakers always sound better than my preconceived imagination.
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My listening experiences with various Voxativ loudspeakers were as poor as someone would expect from their measurements, here more:
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Expensive loudspeakers that sound bad
Raidho speakers measure quite poorly in most parameters except perhaps distortion but I've not listened to any. I have heard big and small Raidhos. I always found the sound to be horrendous, truly terrible, especially in the low frequencies.
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Hats off to Hi-Fi News in their continuing mission to boldly test where no man has tested before, this week something really special :-
Prize for guessing which speaker is the usual packet of crisps flavour of your choice ( no peeking at the Hi-Fi News site though)
Keith
Prize for guessing which speaker is the usual packet of crisps flavour of your choice ( no peeking at the Hi-Fi News site though)
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Like a beginner's DIYThe lab report was just published late. The results look like pretty standard B&W:
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Worth waiting for!The lab report was just published late. The results look like pretty standard B&W:
Keith
You needed a good cry?
Klipschorn. How should one measure these? Seems like below 400hz these measurements aren’t super relevant. The cliff at 45hz though….Hats off to Hi-Fi News in their continuing mission to boldly test where no man has tested before, this week something really special :-
Prize for guessing which speaker is the usual packet of crisps flavour of your choice ( no peeking at the Hi-Fi News site though)
Keith
I've owned Lowthers that's not surprising to me.
With some of these speakers it looks like they left them in the street, a truck ran over them, and then they did the test.
You pay extra for that.
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