restorer-john
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Concerning our DAC - any clue what's inside?
I'll pull the ones I have here apart and take some pics.
Concerning our DAC - any clue what's inside?
Thanks. Fixed.Typo says 96 db instead of 69 in text. Just after dominating our Sinad.
If that is the worst you've got, then I'll definitely keep my stories to myself.It involved a female tenant flushing something down the toilet that I had to remove by hand, you can use your imagination for the rest (no gloves were used, mistake).
Wow, all the makers of the measured DACs scoring worse than this little metal sound-box should be embarrassed, to say the least.
Yeh, that was my thought too as I was looking at at the rankings.Wow, all the makers of the measured DACs scoring worse than this little metal sound-box should be embarrassed, to say the least.
This thing is worth less than a Big Mac, yet, it scores better than things that cost as much as an excellent wagyu steak
Also, leaving alone "dedicated" audio solutions, the results of the Dell XPS 8930 are still scandalous, after so many years of massive progress on every level of HW, such a neglect and ignorance having this audio output in a powerful desktop system from renowned manufacturerWow, all the makers of the measured DACs scoring worse than this little metal sound-box should be embarrassed, to say the least.
This thing is worth less than a Big Mac, yet, it scores better than things that cost as much as an excellent wagyu steak
I might prefer a broken as designed award. Image of broken electronics being swept into a dust bin.....and anyone scoring worst than the cheapest DAC in the world get an engraved Plunger so they can get their sh*t together.
WTH did the other guy end up? Damn.As long as you keep the trenches where the absorbtion pipes are, reasonably free of invasive trees/roots and stop grass from growing inside the grey water tanks, they are awesome. We've replaced the grey water (submersible float activated) pump once at this house and once at the other house and they were 20 years old.
My son was going to set off some matchead rockets on top of the septic tank (as it is thick cement) and I told him about people being killed or injured by gas explosions from septic tanks blowing the cement lid off...
Yeah. I mean, I expect very little from integrated audio, but the 8930 is exceptionally lousy. I can understanding cheaping out as much as possible, but there's definitely gotta be some sort of engineering mistake contributing to the 8930's score. As this review examples, even the cheapest of the cheap aren't that bad, in this decade.Also, leaving alone "dedicated" audio solutions, the results of the Dell XPS 8930 are still scandalous, after so many years of massive progress on every level of HW, such a neglect and ignorance having this audio output in a powerful desktop system from renowned manufacturer![]()
Performance is never irrelevant. Performance as a paperweight? Even At 2$ it still needs to function, otherwise 2$ is expensive. Probably why it gets a recommend.At $2 performance is irrelevant.
This is a review and detailed measurements of what has to be the world's cheapest DAC. It is so cheap it doesn't even have a name! It is literally called "Digital To Analog Audio Converter." Actually, it is also available under many other names on various sites (Amazon, Ebay, AliExpress, etc.). Pricing from China is as low as $2! I found one for $3 with $2 shipping to US for a total of $5. The sample I have was kindly purchased by a member and sent to me for $6 I think.
Here is what it looks like:
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It comes in a surprising sturdy metal box and actually manages to look nice. It needs 5 volt input and comes with a USB to barrel connector for that purpose:
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Toslink and Coax input are provided:
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Alas, there is no USB input. The USB connection if for power only. The positive side is that there is no driver to worry about and it works with anything that spits out Coax or S/PDIF such as your TV.
DAC Audio Measurements
Let's start with our dashboard feeding it over Toslink:
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Sad to see such low output of just 0.8 volt. Usually a DAC has 2 volts out or worst case, 1 volt. Distortion is also quite high, dominating our SINAD to tune of 69 dB:
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Noise floor is actually decent for such a device:
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There is jitter:
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Conclusions
The standard for under $10 DAC is a cheesy plastic thing, albeit with USB input usually. Here, you get a solid metal box that should last more than a few months of being banged around. If you have optical output of your TV and want to feed an active speaker and such with analog audio, this thing could do the job while costing less than a fast food meal.
Objectively this generic DAC is pretty lousy but for tertiary use, it will be fine. So I am going to recommend it just to reward whoever has managed to squeeze so much value out of this thing!
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As always, questions, comments, recommendations, etc. are welcome.
Still living in spetic tank hell. The guy who was supposed to come yesterday to pump it never showed up. Called the company and they said they didn't even have an appointment for anyone to come and do it and next time they could, would be Saturday. Needless to say, I blew my top and after shouting at three people, they sent a guy late last night to pump it. He finishes pumping it but the main drain is clogged. I knew this was the case and had told them to have a plumber ready to come and unclog it. Of course they didn't have anyone to come and do that either. I was told someone would call me today.
Well, no one called me. So I went to DIY store and bought an electric Auger to unclog it myself. Got it partially clear but not enough. Right then they call me and send a plumber. Guy shows up and puts one of those DIY bladders in the pipe and has me turn on the water. Not only does it not work but blows its attachment to the hose and now the stupid thing is stuck in the sewage pipe! Trying to get it out, he manages to push it further into the pipe! 3 hours later and he still can't get it out.
So now they are coming tomorrow to tear the pipes out to get the stupid thing out! So another night with no facilities.
Not sure any amount of donations is going to cheer me up but it doesn't hurt to try using: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/how-to-support-audio-science-review.8150/
This one surely feeds the coax output.