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Working too hard can give you a Heart Attack Ack Ack Ack Ack Ack... My Heart Attack Story.

And the opposite of working too hard is sometimes true:

Kansas City Chiefs defensive lineman BJ Thompson suffered a seizure during a special teams meeting Thursday and went into cardiac arrest,
 
@BDWoody : It's been over a month, how are you doing?
 
@BDWoody : It's been over a month, how are you doing?

Doing great, thank you for asking!

I am going to specialized cardiac rehab a couple times a week to make sure it is all behaving properly, but nothing causing concern at this time

I've started wearing a Garmin smartwatch as well, so I'm getting a much better Idea of what my body is actually doing on a day to day basis and plan to stay tuned in as I go forward. I'm ramping up my exercise and paying a lot more attention to my diet, and have no complaints really.

I'll be evaluated again by my cardiologist after an echocardiogram scheduled for September, where we'll make a plan for the valve replacement and additional bypass graft, but as of now I am very busy enjoying life without many restrictions.
 
Doing great, thank you for asking!

I am going to specialized cardiac rehab a couple times a week to make sure it is all behaving properly, but nothing causing concern at this time

I've started wearing a Garmin smartwatch as well, so I'm getting a much better Idea of what my body is actually doing on a day to day basis and plan to stay tuned in as I go forward. I'm ramping up my exercise and paying a lot more attention to my diet, and have no complaints really.

I'll be evaluated again by my cardiologist after an echocardiogram scheduled for September, where we'll make a plan for the valve replacement and additional bypass graft, but as of now I am very busy enjoying life without many restrictions.
Are you going to ditch the avatar smoking the cigarette? Just kidding. Glad to hear you are doing well, and moving forward.
 
Very glad to hear that you are doing well. Life can be scary sometimes, as well as beautiful.
 
Doing great, thank you for asking!

I am going to specialized cardiac rehab a couple times a week to make sure it is all behaving properly, but nothing causing concern at this time

I've started wearing a Garmin smartwatch as well, so I'm getting a much better Idea of what my body is actually doing on a day to day basis and plan to stay tuned in as I go forward. I'm ramping up my exercise and paying a lot more attention to my diet, and have no complaints really.

I'll be evaluated again by my cardiologist after an echocardiogram scheduled for September, where we'll make a plan for the valve replacement and additional bypass graft, but as of now I am very busy enjoying life without many restrictions.
Sounds great. Are you considering mechanical or biological valve?
 
Sounds great. Are you considering mechanical or biological valve?

Leaning towards the biological. That means I'll likely need another replacement down the road, but the anticoagulant requirement, and all that goes with it for the mechanical is mainly what's putting me off that option.
 
Doing great, thank you for asking!

I am going to specialized cardiac rehab a couple times a week to make sure it is all behaving properly, but nothing causing concern at this time

I've started wearing a Garmin smartwatch as well, so I'm getting a much better Idea of what my body is actually doing on a day to day basis and plan to stay tuned in as I go forward. I'm ramping up my exercise and paying a lot more attention to my diet, and have no complaints really.

I'll be evaluated again by my cardiologist after an echocardiogram scheduled for September, where we'll make a plan for the valve replacement and additional bypass graft, but as of now I am very busy enjoying life without many restrictions.
Somehow, I just found this post. I’m glad you’re doing better.

My first job in pharmaceuticals was as summer Intern from business school for a product that reduced morbidity and mortality from heart attacks. I was supposed to put together a program to educate post HA patients how to do better and people at risk how to understand symptoms. I’ve also worked on drugs that reduce cholesterol too. So I’m very familiar with your symptoms and complications. I’m glad you reacted the way you did.

I was once talking to my mom in Oz and she had similar symptoms. I told her to hang up and call emergency right away. Similar to you, they came quickly but the relevant hospital was close to an hour away. She suffered an arrest en route but recovered well as she was in a cardiac supported ambulance. It’s been many years already, but she’s doing great and playing go.f three times weekly.

I have bad family history (mom and dad) but on top of my BP, cholestero, HbA1C, etc. I exercise religiously and keep good control of my weight. My Internist is quite happy.

But it is knowledge not generally common plus a lot of diligence that allows me to stay ok. Society still doesn’t do a great job and denial is still a huge issue.

Your experience is unusual and fortunate. Congrats, in an weird way. You know what I mean.
 
(I had typed a long response, but my hand slipped and deleted it.)

Thank you for your exellent 'symptom & response' description, and strong encouragement to CALL 911 right away!
Hear attack survival rate is low, something like 20% - you did everything right, and had good services available.

I had a similar experience with a stroke.

While I had 'gamed' what I'd to if I had a heart attack bc of family history, I was NOT prepared for how to handle a stroke:

- how to dial 911 if you can't pick up a phone and dial, OR talk!
- It took me 20 minutes to succeed, and then had 911 operators who figured out I was having a stroke.
- There were patrol cops nearby who got to me within minutes (turned out the sergeant had had a stroke and took him 10 years to get back on the job again!)

I was lucky - we have excellent emergency services nearby, and a superb university hospital - but even so it took a lot of good luck.

Do NOT ignore symptoms, or try to tough it out - train yourself mentally to be prepared for sudden medical or ability failings, minimize the 'stunned shock' part of the response, and get to a phone.
Smart watches and phones today can help with this - as well as diagnostics (AFIB) - so consider those appliances as well, but focus on symptoms first.

Had I been wearing an apple watch this might never had happened - I had NO idea I had AFIB.

Medical science has improved dramatically in the last 20 years, but you need to GET TO THEM first!!

Glad to hear you are doing well - I have relatives and friends who have had open heart surgery, and they are all doing quite well, several years later.
Best wishes!!
 
@Neddy , actually, the heart attack mortality rate right now is quite low. I will check the actual figures, but survival has fortunately increased dramatically. Pharma and stents have done an amazing job. Denial is the biggest killer.
 
Are you going to ditch the avatar smoking the cigarette? Just kidding. Glad to hear you are doing well, and moving forward.
The avatar smoking may be all he has left! Besides, I'm pretty sure that's not a cigarette...

Same here, glad to hear things are going so well in the circumstance.
 
Doing great, thank you for asking!
Glad to hear your doing well Brad.
I had an echo a few weeks back which came back normal and did a injection based stress test on Thur,
still waiting to hear on it's results with fingers crossed..
This getting old shit ain't for the faint of heart. :(
 
It can be working too hard, it can be doing too little, it could be extremely bad luck or it could be a direct result of your life choices, but having a Heart Attack is one of those scary things that we've all seen in movies, and have all heard the handful of common symptoms for, but most will never experience. Well...lucky me...I got to go through this last week on Thursday when in the middle of what was quite the work call (my real work, not what I do here) I started to feel what was a mild pressure in my chest. Nothing crazy, nothing like what you see in the movies. I wasn't clutching my chest, I wasn't struggling to breathe, it just felt a little tight, like I had just run an extra wind sprint and expected it to just fade away. No big deal...

Well, a few minutes later it still wasn't feeling any better. Nothing extreme, and through the entire course of events, I never had what I would consider extreme pain anywhere. So, at this point I do a bunch of useless stuff, like pulling out my little portable Kardia Mobile EKG, my blood pressure cuff and my pulse oximeter, none of which showed me anything unusual. Another 5-10 minutes go by and nothing is getting better, so I go online and start looking up symptoms of a heart attack, because obviously who needs a cardiologist at a time like this, I'm perfectly capable of determining whether I am going to die in a few hours without treatment, right? hmmmm....

Another 10-15 minutes go by and I'm starting to imagine my left arm/shoulder is feeling...something. Well, of course I must be imagining that, since that's just one of the symptoms on every list you read, so it's likely just psychosomatic...just ignore that for a bit and see if it gets better. Wait, now I'm starting to feel a bit clammy and sweaty, and quite suddenly the words that came to my mind were

"Play Stupid Games, Win Stupid Prizes."

At that point, I decided to not let my vanity get in the way of survival so I actually called 911, took a couple of aspirin, unlocked my door and sat on my couch and waited. Paramedics got there within about 6 minutes where they got me loaded up and off we went. Hooked me up to an IV and a 12 lead EKG, which is where they were able to see that telltale STEMI pattern on the trace. Got me to one of the better cardiac units in the State which was only another 7 minutes down the road where I was met by a full team who descended on me like a hive of bees, got me switched to their gurney and started sprinting me down the hall towards the Cath Lab. It was a pretty intense time, with a lot happening. A catheter was fed through the radial artery of my right wrist (yes, that hurts) and they had other stuff going into IVs on the other arm, and to make a long story short, found a 100% blockage of the Right Coronary Artery. That was then cleared and a stent was placed, and the part of my heart that had been starved of Oxygen was back online. Whew!

From there it was to the Cardiac ICU for that night and the next day, and while there was a little excitement that first night (a little v-tach thrown in for fun) it's been smooth sailing since, and I was released on Saturday. My two kids and my ex-wife (we are very close friends) descended on my world and took over, cleaning out all the shit I like to eat and replacing it with the stuff that tastes like shit but that won't kill me, and helping in every way imaginable, and I've got amazing friends that have provided nothing but support, so I am in a good place in terms of getting through all this, but it's no joke.

I will have to go back for Open Heart Surgery later this year to replace my Aortic Valve (Bicuspid valve...not specifically related to the MI but a separate issue that it's time to take care of anyway) and to have a Coronary Bypass for the Left Anterior Descending Artery which has significant blockage, but that they wanted to wait to treat until they could do the graft and the valve replacement together. That's a few months down the road, after I've had a chance to fully recover from this most recent event.

So, why tell you all about this?

Here's the thing...the reason I am alive is that I resisted whatever urge it is that tells us to just tough it out, soldier on, stiff upper lip, don't be a whiner, that's something that happens to other people, I'm only 57 (fill in your age here), I'm 5'10" 155lbs, no obvious lifestyle problems other than too much coffee/sugar/fat/flavor/salt how could I be having a heart attack? I've ridden out kidney stones at home I can handle this, or whatever else. If I had followed my initial instinct to just go lay down for a few hours to see how I felt later, that may have awarded me the ultimate stupid prize in the ultimate stupid game. I am glad my son didn't have to find me there.

There isn't one set of symptoms for a heart attack. If you are concerned enough to be looking up heart attack symptoms PUT DOWN THE KEYBOARD, PICK UP YOUR PHONE AND CALL 911!
This is one of those medical events where once you've got a blocked coronary artery, there is a ticking clock counting down to zero, and if you decide you want to play the stupid game of watching that clock tick its way down as you ponder what web site to look at next, you may win the ultimate stupid prize.

So, please...please...at least take a minute and think about how you will react when you, or someone you love is experiencing anything that in any way could mean you're having a heart issue. Have no doubt that if you get to a hospital and you've just got some bad gas, that is a cause for celebration, not a sign that you shouldn't have called in the first place. I had quite a few of the nurses over the last few days tell me stories about people who waited too long, and you can see how it angers them when proper care is a 911 call away, but they just go die in their bedroom or end up dying on the way to the hospital instead because of their vanity.

On that happy note, I very much appreciate this community and thought that it might be worth sharing this crazy story for those who may go through something like it, in the hopes that instead of playing doctor with yourself, you will let an actual MD do it.

Thanks for listening, and now on with our regularly scheduled programming. Thank God.


I had a similar experience.
I was 42 at the time.
Now 65

I was very active lifting weights most days cycling 20m a day too.
I had done this since I was 18.

Anyway started to get tight chest with loss of breath ect.
My doc said it was overtraining syndrome.

Symptoms got worse over the next 3 months, I would feel cold with freezing sweating feeling sick.
Returned to docs, he still told me nothing new.
Next day took my dog for a walk, suddenly felt sick cold clammy sweat pain in my left arm and an intense chest pain.
I had too slowly get home.

Walked in the house rang 999 they told me to take 7 aspirin and wait.

Had to stents fitted . I had a small heart attack.
Back working out 3 weeks later.
Iam no w 65 and still working out.

Warning to others.
Chest pain cold sweat. Breathless. Get to hospital ASAP
 
Leaning towards the biological. That means I'll likely need another replacement down the road, but the anticoagulant requirement, and all that goes with it for the mechanical is mainly what's putting me off that option.
It was the replacement issue that made me choose a mechanical. One year now and stable pK values and I don’t restrict myself in any eating habits.
 
The survival rate for a heart attack is high, 80%~90%.

The survival rate for cardiac arrest is much lower, <10% outside a hospital (and only 20%~25% within a hospital), and frequently causes lasting brain damage and other issues among survivors.

Source: American Heart Association. The AHA has a short video on hands-only (no mouth-to-mouth) CPR that is well worth your time. Immediate CPR is often the difference between life and death.

Differences: https://manhattancardiologycare.com/blog/heart-attack-and-cardiac-arrest A heart attack is what most people describe, a blockage of blood vessels around the heart. A cardiac arrest is an electrical problem wherein the heart stops beating. People who have had heart attacks are at much higher risk for cardiac arrest though the odds are improving.

Disclaimer: I am not a doctor. I was an EMT many years ago, and have had various training off and on since, most recently as an American Red Cross shelter volunteer.
 
Glad to hear your doing well Brad.
I had an echo a few weeks back which came back normal and did a injection based stress test on Thur,
still waiting to hear on it's results with fingers crossed..
This getting old shit ain't for the faint of heart. :(

Did you get your results? How is it looking? As my grandmother used to say, 'Growing old is not for sissies!'
 
- how to dial 911 if you can't pick up a phone and dial, OR talk!
- It took me 20 minutes to succeed, and then had 911 operators who figured out I was having a stroke.
- There were patrol cops nearby who got to me within minutes (turned out the sergeant had had a stroke and took him 10 years to get back on the job again!)

I was lucky - we have excellent emergency services nearby, and a superb university hospital - but even so it took a lot of good luck.

That sounds absolutely terrifying. I will definitely think through how to reach help when it is most challenging! Glad you got through to to other side. Sometimes a little luck goes a long way.
 
It was the replacement issue that made me choose a mechanical. One year now and stable pK values and I don’t restrict myself in any eating habits.

So no regrets it sounds like.

I'm in that middle age group where there is no clear recommendation. The idea of a second open heart surgery isn't terribly appealing, but being permanently and irrevocably tied to warfarin isn't either.

Separate question... Can you hear your valve clicking away when it's quiet?
 
I've had to ask my company and boss to put the brakes on my workload. I've been working 50+ hours for the past two months and covering the workload of two people. It's definitely showing up in my physical condition as well, lack of exercise, sleep, and good diet have caused me to gain visible weight, and I've started feeling aches and pains that I never had. I had to tell my boss, I'll have a cardiac arrest if I keep working long hours daily and not get the necessary rest. I've done more work than the engineer has done in a single calendar year in a span of five months. Definitely looking out for myself instead of pushing myself.
 
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