Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (insider preview) free upgrade installation on officially-unsupported outdated PC

[gberchin]

Requiring Windows 11 and requiring TPM 2.0 are two different things. It might be useful to compile a list of software and applications that require TPM 2.0, as they are found.

 

[xanalog]

Requiring Windows 11 and requiring TPM 2.0 are two different things. It might be useful to compile a list of software and applications that require TPM 2.0, as they are found.

My post#76 discussed the new mandatory online log-in credentialing now needed for Win11.
My post#99 linked to a yt video about TPM's potential privacy implications.
In addition, Microsoft, for Windows11 25H2 (as well as 24H2), is reinforcing UEFI firmware w/SecureBoot capabilities as an explicit prerequisite for both upgrade paths.
These are not different things, mon Ami.

Of course, there have always been workarounds as well as new bypass methods and tools to remove restrictions.

 

[ShadowBoxer]

My post#76 discussed the new mandatory online log-in credentialing now needed for Win11.

I've been using Win-11 for quite some time, and I never log in to the Microsoft servers. Of course, they may be making that more difficult going forward (but not impossible).

 

[LGD_]

I've been using Win-11 for quite some time, and I never log in to the Microsoft servers.

I've been following this thread with great interest, but have one nagging question:

What happens with these "bootleg" upgrades down the road when apps (TurboTax, your bank, etc.) start requiring an active TPM chip to access them ?

 

[ShadowBoxer]

start requiring an active TPM chip to access them ?

If that were to happen (haven't seen any indication of that, but I haven't really looked) it may be time to look at new HW. In my case, those types of apps are only accessed from one of my machines that already has TPM HW. IOW, no impact for me. YMMV.

 

[gberchin]

These are not different things, mon Ami.

That's not what I meant. I meant that there may be software that requires Windows 11 in order to run, but not TPM 2.0. There may be other software that requires TPM 2.0, but which could still run under Windows 10 or earlier (unlikely, but it could happen). There may be yet other software that requires both. It would be nice to know which software falls into which category.

An example was provided in the video: He stated that TurboTAX 2025 will require Windows 11, but whether it also requires TPM 2.0 is as yet undetermined.

 

[dualazmak]

Too much updates, too frequent updates, are going on Windows 11 25H2?

At least to my personal feeling, during the past only one month, too much updates, too frequent updates, have been going on Windows 11 25H2; do you feel the same?

Now my version of my Windows 11 25H2, in all of my PCs upgraded to 25H2, is OS build 26200.7019, and today I disabled the automatic Windows update for coming 5 weeks! Even after this period, I will continue disabling Windows update until the end of year, since all the Windows 11 25H2 PCs work perfectly fine now.

Just for your reference, I use/subscribe the latest version of ESET Internet Security (now ver. 19.0.11.0) on all the PCs.

BTW, I read somewhere on the web that Microsoft shall not release any update on Windows 25H2 in coming December, but I am now very much suspicious about it...

 

[xanalog]

Too much updates, too frequent updates, are going on Windows 11 25H2?
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Just for your reference, I use/subscribe the latest version of ESET Internet Security (now ver. 19.0.11.0) on all the PCs.
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What does ESET do for you that Windows11 built-in security features (e.g. Defender) is not doing?
ESET @v19.x.x.x does not sound like a poster-child of limited updates and/or upgrades.

 

[dualazmak]

I use Windows 11 Pro 25H2 also on some outdated not-officially-supported PCs, as I summarized in my post #29. This is the main reason for my utilization of ESET Internet Security since I am afraid of possibility that Windows security features would not always good enough on these unsupported PCs (e.g. they do not have TPM).

So far, ESET have been working nicely giving proper alarms for malware (i.e. improper manual or automatic installations for suspicious applications/software), perfect eliminations/deletions of virus infected e-mails, excellent sorting-out of spam/junk mails, providing safe internet banking features, etc., etc.