Wilson Audio Speakers: Why do people like them?

[Arindal]

He´s the friendly version of "trust me bro"

Rather the opposite. I am not selling anything and rarely recommend to buy certain products. I strongly recommend to not trust my subjective impressions, descriptions of sound quality and experience without own verification, but to understand the underlying phenomena of acoustics, procedures of recording, mixing and monitoring, get familiar with a lot of existing recordings (my playlists only for loudspeaker evaluation contains like 5,000+ tracks which I see as a minimum) and always do own A/B listening comparisons to verify potential claims. If one does not trust sighted tests, blind tests are highly recommended. Open to questions for advice which products to compare to get the questions answered and which recordings to choose for the test.

But despite exhortations you have provided no data, despite claiming to have tested thousands of speakers. What's the deal?

Which data would you find interesting to back my claims? Having tested a number of speakers in this region does not equal having own copyrights to publish these measurements.

 

[Mort]

He´s the friendly version of "trust me bro", and essentially, not different from Darko, Gutemberg and so on.

There are a few more like that here. I also ignore them. It's not the audio science I'm looking for.

 

[RexrothPigeon]

Having tested a number of speakers in this region does not equal having own copyrights to publish these measurements.

So we are left with "trust me bro." Unfortunate, but I understand that you can't share others' intellectual property.

 

[mglobe]

Not sure if these have been posted previously cause TLDR, but the source is a good one. I heard the Watt Puppies sometime in the 80’s and at the time was amazed. I have no confidence in that opinion now, nor do I have an opinion on the brand other than the expense. I’ll let smarter people than me comment on what they see.

https://www.soundstagenetwork.com/measurements/wilson_wattpuppy6/

 

[qirex]

One thing I learned from the Andrew Robinson review of whichever "low end" (read: 40+ grand) model they let him demo was that the purchase price of the speakers comes with an installation team that will spend hours getting them set them up in your room, including computer-based measurements. This is why all the boxes they split the treble components into are adjustable. So they're basically manually room corrected.

The amusing kicker is they're so heavy that the pesky tweako audiophile owner can't mess it up once the installers leave.

 

[Vacceo]

Rather the opposite. I am not selling anything and rarely recommend to buy certain products. I strongly recommend to not trust my subjective impressions, descriptions of sound quality and experience without own verification, but to understand the underlying phenomena of acoustics, procedures of recording, mixing and monitoring, get familiar with a lot of existing recordings (my playlists only for loudspeaker evaluation contain like 5,000+ tracks which I see as a minimum) and always do own A/B listening comparisons to verify potential claims. If one does not trust sighted tests, blind tests are highly recommended. Open to questions for advice which products to compare to get the questions answered and which recordings to choose for the test.



Which data would you find interesting to back my claims? Having tested a number of speakers in this region does not equal having own copyrights to publish these measurements.

I was talking about Andrew Robinson.

Your tests are akin to mine listening to Carcass on different setups: fun, but hardly scientific.

 

[sqrl]

One thing I learned from the Andrew Robinson review of whichever "low end" (read: 40+ grand) model they let him demo was that the purchase price of the speakers comes with an installation team that will spend hours getting them set them up in your room, including computer-based measurements. This is why all the boxes they split the treble components into are adjustable. So they're basically manually room corrected.

The amusing kicker is they're so heavy that the pesky tweako audiophile owner can't mess it up once the installers leave.

Unless they move their chair.

 

[MAB]

I was talking about Andrew Robinson.

Your tests are akin to mine listening to Carcass on different setups: fun, but hardly scientific.

So funny.
But very true.

 

[Flaesh]

For about the same price you can get the XVX or Magico M7

I don't know Magico Ultimate price.

Is this a good buy? I have my doubts about this small 100-liter subwoofer.

 

[Sokel]

I don't know Magico Ultimate price.
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Is this a good buy? I have my doubts about this small 100-liter subwoofer.

Is this a sub or a woofer?
Cause 100 liters for a woofer is not very much, Genelec 8380 has more volume for example and it's not even one of their big mains monitors.

 

[Ktacos]

Eh it's relative but 100 liters is a pretty large box.

 

[Flaesh]

woofer?

I couldn't find the official lower frequency.

A somewhat more conventional 15-inch woofer, coupled with a 4,000 watt amplifier, supplies the deepest bass frequencies.

Oh, it goes down deep—35 to 40Hz—with simply incredible resolution, power, speed, and control, but it doesn’t have all the lifelike bloom and warmth in the bottom-most octaves of certain large dynamic speakers.

Okay, the lower octave can be supplemented with several Magico subwoofers. All that's left is to position the speakers in the room so there's a dip in the 50-60 Hz region and enjoy the music!

 

[Vacceo]

So funny.
But very true.

I have been listening to Heartwork since it released. It´s an album I know by heart. But there is no science there.

 

[Sokel]

Eh it's relative but 100 liters is a pretty large box.

Not relative to the rest of the speaker and (I assume) the targeted SPL and range.
Because that's what makes all the difference in bigger speakers.

 

[Flaesh]

How can you not like the design and color?

Very easy! The color combination and the colors themselves are quite unpleasant, and the shapes are simply disgusting. The stupid silly grills are additionally repulsive

 

[TehMowat]

Very easy! The color combination and the colors themselves are quite unpleasant, and the shapes are simply disgusting. The stupid silly grills are additionally repulsive

They come in a wide array of colors, to suit many tastes. Ive installed 3 or 4 pairs of those XVX's, most are not the wild "Four Seasons" colors in that photo, and none of my clients leave the grills on. The shape is definitely out of the norm, but in person they are so, so impressive. They are designed that way to allow every driver to be aimed and tweaked for each listening situation. The end result is amazing. But that's my opinion.

 

[RexrothPigeon]

I think they're hideous. But that's just my opinion.

 

[Buckchester]

I think they're hideous. But that's just my opinion.

Nope, not just you.

 

[Sokel]

This blue color thing, is an american secret code or something?
I see it all over the place, cars too!

No way a thing colored like that would survive a European room.

 

[BeeKay]

He´s the friendly version of "trust me bro", and essentially, not different from Darko, Gutemberg and so on.

The usual HiFi influencers trying to make a living at our expense and time.