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WiiM Ultra

I know.
It just happened for less of a couple hours, hope somebody got it that price.
I was not quick enough. :(
 
I know.
It just happened for less of a couple hours, hope somebody got it that price.
I was not quick enough. :(
That's a bit suspicious, maybe some faulty unit labeled as reconditioned?It wouldn't be the first time...
 
Imho the launch of the Wiim Ultra on AMZ is too recent to already get some units returned.
It's worth noting that, at same time window, the Eversolo DMP-6 also was priced at just 759 Eur.
 
I'm using the HDMI ARC input now, playing music from my Linux PC and the Ultra display shows 2304kbps | 24bit | 48.0khz.

Signal chain is Linux PC HDMI out -> HDMI kvm switch -> 4k monitor HDMI in. 4k monitor HDMI ARC to Ultra.

Linux PC is playing a ripped CD at 16/44.1. The monitor is probably upscaling everything to 48.

I am also using the HDMI ARC input from my LG TV and my display shows the same. Nvidia Shield to TV and HDMI ARC to WiiM
 
General answer - a laptop + DAC is a streamer + DAC. The Ultra is a digital streaming pre amp with DAC and EQ/bass management and a sub out.

Now more specifically, these days you can get a PC to do pretty much anything these days, including a lot of the above.

But one of the glories of the Ultra is one box, plug & play.

Getting a PC to do all of the above involves downloading programmes/apps, learning to use them (not always easy) possibly buying extra boxes/soundcards/miniDSP, installing, learning how to use.

You’re going to have to do quite a bit to a PC to turn it into a pre amp with line level, phono and HDMI inputs.

And ultimately, whilst possible, if you wanted to cover all bases on the in and out front, that’s not going to come cheap.

Finally, whilst we’re still waiting for Amir to review and measure the ADC on the WiiM, that’s yet another base that needs covering.

Sorry, did I say finally? Adding facility for both a remote, and control from your phone, that’s not going to be either free or plug and play either.

Hopefully I’ve covered everything.
Context is everything.
 
Context is everything.
This. Is a great and lovely device, but for example in my case there is no need for it.
In my living room I have a TV connected to a MiniPC (before a laptop) and I use that for everyting. I mean, browsing in the net, listening or check youtube, mails, and also listening music and watching movies. I don't even use smart features from the TV since I prefer doing it through the computer with a wireless mouse and keyboard.
So I have the computer through a DAC through an amplifier to my speakers and is the center of everything I do when I want to relax or do stuff.
Remote control? No problem, I turn off the TV, the computer is always on 24/7, Tidal and spotify always open, I just open the apps from my phone and control from there. I can easily from other room select track, start, stop, or do whatever I want.
And the mini PC I have bought was cheaper than a Wiim device.

Again... context is everything, probably in a world where my living room won't have a TV, or TV will be in another place, and I just want to stream music, Wiim ultra will be my choice for sure.
Some day (When I dream) I would have in my living room my speakers just for music and a special room for home cinema with another kind of speakers and a projector probably, but meanwhile, the miniPC does everything I want.
 
is there lip sync delay on the hdmi or toslink optical input from tv.
It used to be a problem with Wiim pro.
And does the dsp cause any delay.

Also, Has anyone documented their experience of room correction outside eq.
By this I mean time aligning with the sub.

I have the Wiim pro, and want to connect the sub to the analogue preouts while the stereo mains can go digital to my rme adi 2 dac into active monitors. Will there be time alignment problems with this setup.
I know this isn’t ideal, but I don’t want to have to purchase the Wiim ultra for the sub out to achieve integration.
The in built dac quality of the Wiim pro preouts doesn’t matter with a sub for low frequencies only.
And I have eq on the svs sub 2000 via Bluetooth app.
Sort of like the Minidsp 2x4 hd.

Would this work Since I already have the Wiim pro.
 
is there lip sync delay on the hdmi or toslink optical input from tv.
It used to be a problem with Wiim pro.
And does the dsp cause any delay.

Also, Has anyone documented their experience of room correction outside eq.
By this I mean time aligning with the sub.

I have the Wiim pro, and want to connect the sub to the analogue preouts while the stereo mains can go digital to my rme adi 2 dac into active monitors. Will there be time alignment problems with this setup.
I know this isn’t ideal, but I don’t want to have to purchase the Wiim ultra for the sub out to achieve integration.
The in built dac quality of the Wiim pro preouts doesn’t matter with a sub for low frequencies only.
And I have eq on the svs sub 2000 via Bluetooth app.
Sort of like the Minidsp 2x4 hd.

Would this work Since I already have the Wiim pro.
The subwoofer out has a 0 or 180 degree switch. I have not tried it on the WiiM, but on other systems where I have used it, it has not worked very well. But, it is there to experiment with.

There is Room Correction in the Ultra. I have not used it, but it may be worth a try.

Also, there is a Sync Audio function for syncing the speakers. You may want to investigate that.
 
Other than the WiiM Mini, all of the products share the same CPU (Quad Core A53) and amount of RAM and Flash memory (512MB, 512MB). So other than differences specific to the HDMI processing, that should mean it is reasonable to expect same capabilities across the line.
That's the expectation - there may be differences we don't know about. The ARC (not eARC) is essentially SPDIF/toslink over a different electrical interface, with capabilities exchanged so that the source doesn't send something the receiving end can't handle.
 
I currently have a Google Chromecast Audio (picture attached) connected to a Schiit Modi 3+ DAC. This is connected to a Tandberg 3012. I'm wondering if the Wiim Ultra would be an improvement over what I current have?
Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.
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Out of the box, the WiiM Ultra would not improve sound quality over your current setup.

However, if you make use of some of the Ultra's features like room correction or subwoofer integration, then you can certainly achieve higher quality sound.
 
Out of the box, the WiiM Ultra would not improve sound quality over your current setup.

However, if you make use of some of the Ultra's features like room correction or subwoofer integration, then you can certainly achieve higher quality sound.
Wondering if I go for an Eversolo A8, to obtain some dramatic improvement? My 69 birthday day present!
 
This. Is a great and lovely device, but for example in my case there is no need for it.
In my living room I have a TV connected to a MiniPC (before a laptop) and I use that for everyting. I mean, browsing in the net, listening or check youtube, mails, and also listening music and watching movies. I don't even use smart features from the TV since I prefer doing it through the computer with a wireless mouse and keyboard.
So I have the computer through a DAC through an amplifier to my speakers and is the center of everything I do when I want to relax or do stuff.
Remote control? No problem, I turn off the TV, the computer is always on 24/7, Tidal and spotify always open, I just open the apps from my phone and control from there. I can easily from other room select track, start, stop, or do whatever I want.
And the mini PC I have bought was cheaper than a Wiim device.

Again... context is everything, probably in a world where my living room won't have a TV, or TV will be in another place, and I just want to stream music, Wiim ultra will be my choice for sure.
Some day (When I dream) I would have in my living room my speakers just for music and a special room for home cinema with another kind of speakers and a projector probably, but meanwhile, the miniPC does everything I want.
When people chime in just to say they don't need it. :rolleyes:
 
The subwoofer out has a 0 or 180 degree switch. I have not tried it on the WiiM, but on other systems where I have used it, it has not worked very well. But, it is there to experiment with.

There is Room Correction in the Ultra. I have not used it, but it may be worth a try.

Also, there is a Sync Audio function for syncing the speakers. You may want to investigate that.
I've used it and I can hear the difference, my sub is not pointing towards me, so instead of choosing 0 (speaker pushing air forward) I am using the 180 (speaker pushing air to the rear) To my ears the bass is more controlled and tighter. It's insane how this little unit has so many functionalities.
 
My work colleague bought a wiim ultra with full expectations, and his first impressions brought him disappointment. He already has a wiim pro plus like me and he also has a bluesound node. Before that, he was very excited about the wiim pro plus, but now with the wiim ultra, he says that bluesound sounds better with his kind of settings.
 
My work colleague bought a wiim ultra with full expectations, and his first impressions brought him disappointment. He already has a wiim pro plus like me and he also has a bluesound node. Before that, he was very excited about the wiim pro plus, but now with the wiim ultra, he says that bluesound sounds better with his kind of settings.
Bluesound was on my want list for a long time, I'm waiting for Darko Audio to release a first impressions vid on the Ultra and maybe a Vs video here soon. And a first review posted on Head-Fi----> https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/wiim-ultra.27286/reviews#review-35060
 
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