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Baljci333 said:
Hi guys,

I have a folder in windows that I am sharing across my network with a bunch of music in it - will the wiim ultra be able to detect that and play music from across the network?
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Windows PCs do run a media server by default. WiiM devices will recognise it and you can access it through the WiiM Home App, menu item Home Music Share.

It doesn't matter for this technique if the folder is shared on Windows or not. It will appear just as a music server running on a NAS or Raspberry Pi or whatever device.
 
harkpabst said:
Windows PCs do run a media server by default. WiiM devices will recognise it and you can access it through the WiiM Home App, menu item Home Music Share.

It doesn't matter for this technique if the folder is shared on Windows or not. It will appear just as a music server running on a NAS or Raspberry Pi or whatever device.
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Media server may run by default, but you have to configure it.
 
Petrushka said:
I suppose it defaults to the folder named music.
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It rather follows the concept of "libraries", but by default the Windows 10 "music library" only consists of the user's music folder. :) You can add more folders through Windows Media Player.

Obviously, media streaming must be manually enabled. I probably forgot when and why I did it. If the music files are not in the music folder (for which I see no reason) then that other folder would have to be added to the music library, first. Enabling media streaming is pretty much a one-click-action. It's well described e.g. here:


They also list more capable alternatives, if you need more flexibility. I don't actively use that stuff. It just happens to be around, so I thought I'd answer the question if the Ultra can deal with it. It can, if media streaming is enabled.
 
harkpabst said:
It rather follows the concept of "libraries", but by default the Windows 10 "music library" only consists of the user's music folder. :) You can add more folders through Windows Media Player.

Obviously, media streaming must be manually enabled. I probably forgot when and why I did it. If the music files are not in the music folder (for which I see no reason) then that other folder would have to be added to the music library, first. Enabling media streaming is pretty much a one-click-action. It's well described e.g. here:


They also list more capable alternatives, if you need more flexibility. I don't actively use that stuff. It just happens to be around, so I thought I'd answer the question if the Ultra can deal with it. It can, if media streaming is enabled.
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I think “enabling” counts as configuring. It requires locating the setting and taking positive action.
 
Petrushka said:
I think “enabling” counts as configuring. It requires locating the setting and taking positive action.
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That's why I took back my original statement.

Clicking a button is the kind of configuration most users can deal with.
 
You might not even have to find the setting yourself.

Windows may actively prompt you to enable media streaming in the following scenarios:

1. Network Device Detection: If Windows detects a media-capable device on your network, such as a smart TV, streaming box, or another computer that can play media from your PC, it might prompt you to enable media streaming to share content with these devices.

2. Using HomeGroup: When setting up or joining a HomeGroup (a feature in Windows 7 and 8, deprecated in Windows 10), Windows may suggest enabling media streaming to share music, videos, and pictures across devices within the HomeGroup.

3. Media Player Use: When using Windows Media Player, especially if you are attempting to share a library or stream content to other devices on your network, the program might prompt you to enable media streaming to facilitate this process.

4. Network and Sharing Center: During the setup of network sharing settings, especially if you indicate you want to share content or if Windows detects new devices on your network, it may prompt you to enable media streaming.

5. Third-Party Applications: Certain third-party media streaming applications might prompt you to enable Windows' built-in media streaming functionality to ensure compatibility and performance.

In each case, enabling media streaming allows your PC to act as a media server, making your media files accessible to other devices on the same network.

Source:
ChatGPT
Prompt:
In which cases will Windows actively ask you to enable media streaming?
 
A question for those in the know: can this thing be used instead of EAPO on a Windows computer for all-purpose use (no streaming or anything - watching videos, gaming, etc), or is the device latency too high and will cause sync issues between the monitor and eventually the loudspeakers?
 
The WiiM Ultra cannot replace the Eurasian Patent Organization. It also cannot be used as an external soundcard. The USB port does not support computer audio. It can be used as an input for sound files on a storage device or as an output to an external DAC. Not sure if this answers the question.
 
EAPO would be Equalizer APO, so I think the aim would be to use the PEQ on the Ultra instead of EAPO. While it doesn't support USB from computer to Ultra, ARC or toslink should work. I don't know about the latency though.
 
Bingo - use REW to measure but don't mess around with EAPO and instead use the Ultra's PEQ to do the job. Meh, doesn't even have to be Ultra, a regular Pro does the same thing. Toslink is fine for me, I currently use it between my computer and the amplifier.

However, if the latency is high, then it wouldn't work. Right now in my current computer configuration I have no issues, but if an external WiiM device adds 50+ extra milliseconds, then it will get noticeable.
 
https://forum.wiimhome.com/threads/wiim-pro-latency.188/post-5455 says spdif latency was 85ms and that Wiim were aiming to reduce it to ~25ms with a firmware update. From the release note it looks like they got it down to 50ms. If they reduced it further they don't say by how much. That was before PEQ was introduced, but GEQ was already present. Assuming PEQ just changes the filter parameters previously used for GEQ (imo quite likely) the latency wouldn't change.
Edit: Also assuming the later models have the same latency as the Pro - the 50ms update was before the other models were released, so not mentioned in their release notes.
 
Is it possible to use the ultra manually? I mean, does the touchscreen allow to select artist, album etc. and click play?
Can one use it and access e.g. Spotify without having a smartphone, tablet or any other device of the sort?
Sorry if the question is silly.
 
Sylvia said:
Is it possible to use the ultra manually? I mean, does the touchscreen allow to select artist, album etc. and click play?
Can one use it and access e.g. Spotify without having a smartphone, tablet or any other device of the sort?
Sorry if the question is silly.
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I do not see this as an option. However, the remote has Alexa built in, so if you subscribe to Amazon Music , you can just tell it what to play. I checked and it also works with my free version of Spotify that I set up on Alexa a while back.
 
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WiiM Ultra Firmware v5.2.625032 Update - Aug 2, 2024

Please review the WiiM Ultra update release notes below. If you encounter any issues, feel free to reach out to us. 5.2.625032 (In Progress) Release date: 8 / 2 / 2024 What's New: Roon Ready: Official Roon Ready certification achieved, enhancing audio integration and performance. Note...
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Wiim ultra in. Working like a cham via usb out
 

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uofmtiger said:
I mainly use Amazon with the Wiim, but I will keep the 1st gen AirPort Express connected just in case I want to Airplay to the Ultra.
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That or an iPad, I've seen a few work arounds that's worked for folks really wanting to get their hands on an Ultra.
 
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