WiiM Ultra

[elmoe420]

As they say on wikipedia: citation needed. Is this a fact or some kind of wish thinking by those that despise Apple? (which if fine, you do you)

You are already well aware of the information WiiM posted about this, as you're active in the thread on their official forums. You are free to believe whatever you want. As you said, you do you.

 

[uofmtiger]

If you care about your music playback, you won't use Airplay2 just like you won't buy mp3 files. Airplay2 compresses audio without warning. There are so many better options like UPnP supported by Audirvana and other quality audio gear. Airplay2 will likely sound better than Bluetooth but if you want to be sure your music is delivered without compression you will use UPnP or a direct connection to your DAC via USB.

It’s a convenient feature and many use it. As I mentioned, I don’t use it with my Wiim, but still have access to it via my computer being connected to the line input of the Ultra ( using a switch). Airfoil Speaker allows my Mac Mini to work as a AirPlay receiver.

I have tested DLNA with Audirvana today and it works great, but most of my streaming is via Amazon Music.

(as a side note, I believe Airfoil uses AirPlay 1, which would be (from my understanding) lossless, though not full hi res)

 

[Petrushka]

If you care about your music playback, you won't use Airplay2 just like you won't buy mp3 files. Airplay2 compresses audio without warning. There are so many better options like UPnP supported by Audirvana and other quality audio gear. Airplay2 will likely sound better than Bluetooth but if you want to be sure your music is delivered without compression you will use UPnP or a direct connection to your DAC via USB.

Here’s Bluesound’s page on airplay2:

https://www.bluesound.com/production.bluesound.com/current/bedrock/web/wp/airplay/

 

[joostdh]

You are already well aware of the information WiiM posted about this

I am. And Wiim has in no way implied Apple for not having Airplay. So I’m not sure why someone would spread those unfounded rumours. IMO they are not constructive for a healthy discussion. There are plenty of other factual reasons to hate on Apple if you so wish. But this is not one of them.

 

[Jkdjedi]

Anyone else notice the Wiim (android) app can control the Audioengine B-Fi? Surprised to see it, it found it quick on initial setup.

 

[Joffy1780]

Anyone else notice the Wiim (android) app can control the Audioengine B-Fi? Surprised to see it, it found it quick on initial setup.

There are Linkplay modules in a lot of devices, the iOs app picks up an old Jam WiFi speaker I have in the house.

 

[Joffy1780]

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[Jkdjedi]

There are Linkplay modules in a lot of devices, the iOs app picks up an old Jam WiFi speaker I have in the house.

I was a little bummed I couldn't get 24 bit off the rca cables, only available through optical and coaxial.. the dac on this thing is (technically) better than anything I currently have so I'm stuck with it (which isn't a bad thing really..sounds freakn awesome)

 

[Dreamslayer]

I'm a PC/Galaxy S24+ user - mostly Amazon HD music (I never use Airplay)
I canceled my Wiim Ultra order (yes, after canceling the grey model then ordering the silver model) because the LW50 Wireless 2 is on sale and I'm pretty sure I can sell my passive LS50Metas and Amp for more or less what the integrated set go for which would significantly reduce the need for the Ultra (at least for now). I still have the Wiim Pro which I love but maybe I'll hold out for the Wiim Ultra Pro Plus...

 

[Jkdjedi]

Which one of these do I pick?

 

[gelo_mc]

Wiim stated that they cannot implement airplay due to missing hardware... In raspberry pi which runs on linux airplay can be implemented via software completely. Both platforms runs on a linux OS so definitely possible.

Not allowed since it is a commercial product that requires license to implement is understandable but saying it is completely not possible due to a missing hardware as a press release seems wrong

 

[gordinho]

I'm assuming some RCA to XLR adaptors. The Gennies have a rather hot gain on input anyway, so no real concerns regarding input voltage. Then a splitter from sub output to both subs.

Going from unbalanced to balanced using a cable adapter will work in most situations for short distances but the advisable scenario is to use a DI box.

These genelecs are basically designed for pro studio scenario in a balanced environment or via digital. You could consider using a DAC with balanced outputs or a soundcard, many have balanced outputs since that's what people use in studios.

 

[Ze Frog]

Going from unbalanced to balanced using a cable adapter will work in most situations for short distances but the advisable scenario is to use a DI box.

These genelecs are basically designed for pro studio scenario in a balanced environment or via digital. You could consider using a DAC with balanced outputs or a soundcard, many have balanced outputs since that's what people use in studios.

I may well do that, thanks for mentioning.

My use case won't be pro audio, just hi-fi listening at home. I know that's not the intended use case, but just a level of quality in pro gear that's great for the price. Dead flat response with one bit of PEQ, amplifiers inbuilt and perfectly matched to the driver's, doesn't make sense to go for anything else in my opinion.

Oh, and main reason DAC won't be balanced is because the Wiim Ultra, it's just too much of a good deal what with PEQ, bass management and everything in a one box solution for £350. Unless Wiim gets really poor measurements before the move and I put the system together, in which case I may well go with an RME ADI 2, or a Mini DSP Flex.

 

[Brian Hall]

 

[Brian Hall]

Which one of these do I pick? View attachment 383413

I think the linear phase fast roll-off is the default. I haven't changed it.

 

[Ze Frog]

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So nice to see them supporting a product with updates. And to think you could spend many thousands and you simply get what you get and company swiftly moves on.

 

[Grotti]

Which one of these do I pick? View attachment 383413

I would choose the brick wall. But there is no wrong filter: try them and pick the one you like the most....

 

[Jkdjedi]

The sub out features on this are crazy. Took a little tweaking but it's doing a better job than what my Denon (entry level) AVR was doing. Looking to grab a decent amp to compliment this unit for my bedroom bookshelf speaker setup. Emotiva BasX A2 or Schiit Vidar?

 

[harkpabst]

The fact that room correction is only supported on iOS devices (due to the uniformity of their mics) would seem to argue differently.

Not really. Room correction support for Android devices is in open beta state now. They just started off taking the easier route.

I'm thinking of getting a WiiM mini to feed Airplay into the Ultra but that seems just a little ridiculous somehow.

A bit ridiculous, maybe, but doable.

They should have explicitly said it doesn’t have the needed chip and will never have AirPlay from the start

Unfortunately, they obviously didn't know from the start. I don't know any details, but Apple did certify purely software based solutions in the past. Could well be that they just stopped doing so ... for whatever reason.

I was a little bummed I couldn't get 24 bit off the rca cables, only available through optical and coaxial.. the dac on this thing is (technically) better than anything I currently have so I'm stuck with it (which isn't a bad thing really..sounds freakn awesome)

RCA line out is analog, no bits involved. What exactly didn't work for you? I can play 24 bit files just fine through line out.

Not allowed since it is a commercial product that requires license to implement is understandable but saying it is completely not possible due to a missing hardware as a press release seems wrong

The certification process is 100% controlled by Apple. If they opt to refuse certification, they just do it. Again, we don't know for sure if this is the core of the problem, but it's not completely unlikely.

 

[Joffy1780]

The sub out features on this are crazy. Took a little tweaking but it's doing a better job than what my Denon (entry level) AVR was doing. Looking to grab a decent amp to compliment this unit for my bedroom bookshelf speaker setup. Emotiva BasX A2 or Schiit Vidar?

Fosi V3 mono x2 would be my choice.