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WiiM Ultra

Or just set a volume limit in the WiiM app
That is still a software limit. We are trying to protect from risk of latent software bugs causing full volume to be output.
 
You could skip the DAC step with this USB to toslink adapter.

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I may try that to see how it sounds. I have a few things that feed the optical in, as well, but the switch box I am currently using has one other input I could use for my iPad. I think I have an auto sensing switch out in the garage I haven’t used in a long time, so may try to find it. It would make everything easier.
 
I may try that to see how it sounds. I have a few things that feed the optical in, as well, but the switch box I am currently using has one other input I could use for my iPad. I think I have an auto sensing switch out in the garage I haven’t used in a long time, so may try to find it. It would make everything easier.
I found my optical auto switching device, but it can’t handle hi res, so I ordered one that does… it has a remote rather than auto switching. I will feed it the Optical out from the Topping D10 DAC I am currently using with the iPad. I actually have a second ( currently in a drawer) Topping DAC that I will use with my computer, so I can get optical output from it as well.

The setup will have an AirPort Express and CD player feeding the switch, as well. I currently have a redundant Pure i20 (used with an iPhone 4s) in the setup that I may remove or just use the old switch to add on more components). Not sure which way I will go at this point. I could also drop the AirPort Express and use the Pure instead since the iPhone has an app that handles Airplay.

A USB input would not have required the Topping DACs ( or another converter), but I had them around, so just spent $25 on a switch box to get this all working, so can’t complain.
 

5.2.634663 (In Progress)

Release date:

11 / 5 / 2024

What's New:
  1. Auto Timing Alignment: Syncs main speakers and subwoofer automatically for optimal audio timing (requires app version 2.12.2+).
  2. USB Disk Ejection: Added manual USB ejection (coming in next app update).
  3. Bluetooth Sound Control: Disabled connection notifications when not in Bluetooth input mode.
  4. Google Cast Upgrade: Fixed Output Resolution support and improved sync with Google Speaker Groups.
  5. New Clock Faces: Two clock face options for display (coming in next app update).
  6. Playback Fixes: Improved metadata, fixed skipping issues, added WMA lossless support, and reduced Preset latency.
Bug Fixes:
  1. Offline Responsiveness: Improved response without internet.
  2. General Enhancements: Various performance boosts and bug fixes.
 
Well I bought this device today and it's going back tomorrow. The iOS app forces you to disclose your exact GPS location in order to use the functionality of the app, goodbye and good riddance there is no need for this company to need to know my exact GPS location, it's an invasion of my privacy of my personal right to privacy and it's disgusting practice by Chinese corporations and I don't like it.
 
Well I bought this device today and it's going back tomorrow. The iOS app forces you to disclose your exact GPS location in order to use the functionality of the app, goodbye and good riddance there is no need for this company to need to know my exact GPS location, it's an invasion of my privacy of my personal right to privacy and it's disgusting practice by Chinese corporations and I don't like it.
Are you sure about that? These are the permissions for the WiiM Home iOS app on my phone:

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Well I bought this device today and it's going back tomorrow. The iOS app forces you to disclose your exact GPS location in order to use the functionality of the app, goodbye and good riddance there is no need for this company to need to know my exact GPS location, it's an invasion of my privacy of my personal right to privacy and it's disgusting practice by Chinese corporations and I don't like it.
That does seem un-necessarily intrusive.
 
Are you sure about that? These are the permissions for the WiiM Home iOS app on my phone:

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According to Wiim help location is needed during setup. No explanation why.

 
According to Wiim help location is needed during setup. No explanation why.

Assuming Wiim is international, location is important.
 
According to Wiim help location is needed during setup. No explanation why.

I believe that wifi and bluetooth scanning are caught up under the "location" permission, since those can be used for the purposes of inferring your position based on the network environment. This is needed for initial setup so that the app can find the Wiim device and connect to it, but can be left disabled after that. There's no evidence that Wiim is doing anything untowards here.
 
Assuming Wiim is international, location is important.
Why - they don't need to know where I am to use the product. At least not precisely.
 
I believe that wifi and bluetooth scanning are caught up under the "location" permission, since those can be used for the purposes of inferring your position based on the network environment. This is needed for initial setup so that the app can find the Wiim device and connect to it, but can be left disabled after that. There's no evidence that Wiim is doing anything untowards here.
I've never had any other app that uses network access need permission for location. They are two separate permissions.

And lack of evidence they are doing stuff untoward is not evidence they are not. And just the fact they are asking permission for something they should not need is suspicious in itself.

Simple fact - they don't need a precise gps location. They shouldn't be asking for it. If they need to know what country I am in they can ask me and I'll tell them - or they can get it from an IP address lookup.

I don't have a wiim device, though Ive thought about it. This would be a deal breaker for me - if they are not able to give a good explanation why I need to give them location permissions.
 
I've never had any other app that uses network access need permission for location. They are two separate permissions.
It's not network access. It's actively scanning. Like I said, the sort of thing that can be used for inferring position. Check the Check the Android Developer documentation here, for example. Doing a wifi scan requires getting fine location permission. I'm sure it's similar on iOS. It does not mean your exact GPS coordinates are being collected or sent anywhere. There's no sense blaming Wiim for how permissions work in operating systems nowadays.
 
Are you sure about that? These are the permissions for the WiiM Home iOS app on my phone:

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Maybe it's only on iOS but on the iPhone here it refuses to allow the app to start unless you give permission for location and exact location too, I tried setting it to a random area which was approximate but not exact and it refused to start very disappointing.
 
It's not network access. It's actively scanning. Like I said, the sort of thing that can be used for inferring position. Check the Check the Android Developer documentation here, for example. Doing a wifi scan requires getting fine location permission. I'm sure it's similar on iOS. It does not mean your exact GPS coordinates are being collected or sent anywhere. There's no sense blaming Wiim for how permissions work in operating systems nowadays.
What rubbish, if something isn't needed then it shouldn't be scanned should it? Why should I buy a product and then have to give out my GPS because you say that that's acceptable to do so, this kind of thing is intrusive and unacceptable. The fact of the matter is people aren't going to put up with this sort of stuff any longer we've had enough of it, why do you think it's acceptable for someone to need my GPS location in order for me to set up their app? Bluetooth is low power anyway, their device is quite capable of picking up Bluetooth devices and their locations around me without needing my exact GPS coordinates that is for tracking. It's a simple as that there is no other reason anybody would need you at that GPS location except unless they are tracking you, as stated if I have a comment a reasonable country area can be gleaned from your Mac code and the server from which you are Internet provider is provided the service from this is done to bypass the persistent use of many members of the public of VPN so that they can tell whether or not you are in the location you're in so they can pinpoint the exact location of every single user who buys their product. This is unacceptable. You say there's no proof that the GPS is being used for anything, so can you justify the use of it and the request for it if it's not being used? The fact of the matter is these kind of things should be put on boxes at the point of purchase that you will have to give out your GPS location in order to use the product. I find the absolute incredible that so many people use these products and not one review that I've read has pointed out the fact that this is a requirement. It's something you find out backhandedly once you've got the product home and want to use it, that's sneaky it's snide and it's unacceptable.
 
Doing a Wi-Fi scan requires exact location permission I dare everybody on this forum to turn the Wi-Fi off on their device and then go into Wi-Fi settings and see if they can still pick up their local Wi-Fi network
 
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