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WiiM Ultra Streamer Preamp Review

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    Votes: 5 1.1%
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    Votes: 44 9.4%
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    Votes: 175 37.2%
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    Votes: 246 52.3%

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I did a Google search and have found that both line in and phono in are contained on a sub board. The phono circuit appears to be analog until it reaches, or is close to reaching, the ADC. The opamps are SA5532A, one for each channel. There is an electrolytic on each channel and are Rubycon, but the images I found aren’t of sufficient resolution to determine the values. RIAA appears to be implemented in the analog stage. Opamps on the dac itself are Opa 1611 and 1612.

Perhaps someone who knows design can describe a little more what they see in that phono stage? IMG_2004.pngIMG_2005.pngIMG_2006.jpeg
 
Would be lovely if this happens
 
Very interesting - although, on reading the instructions, it seems that the "surround" speakers have to each be driven by a specific WiiM amp - even though such amps have two stereo channels.
Actually there's now also a series of wireless speakers - the WiiM editions of the Audio Pro A10 MKII and C10 MKII - which have all the streaming capabilities and necessary processing power already on board. I suppose these would make great satellite speakers. Too bad they are not available in Europe yet. Sometimes I miss having a surround system when watching movies. This would be a great solution to quickly convert a 2.0 system to surround. I suppose you could also make it 4.0? My two main speakers in the front and two satellites in the back? Anyways, genius move!
 
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Actually there's now also a series of wireless speakers - the WiiM editions of the Audio Pro A10 MKII and C10 MKII - which have all the streaming capabilities and necessary processing power already on board. I suppose these would make great satellite speakers. Too bad they are not available in Europe yet. Sometimes I miss having a surround system when watching movies. This would be a great solution to quickly convert a 2.0 system to surround. I suppose you could also make it 4.0? My two main speakers in the front and two satellites in the back? Anyways, genius move!
Yes, I noticed it was the A10 in the example in the link provided by SMc. Was about to post that these are available already in the UK, but they are not the Wiim editions. Wiim Minis connected to some other powered speaker that has inputs for the rears would work as well.
 
That was to be expected in order to catch up with the competition.
I suppose you're referring to Sonos? There's lots of other aspects where they have a serious amount of catching up to do...
 
Not sure about 4.0, it would have to downmix. Based on this recent article, it appears not now.

As of Monday, Wiim is looking for beta testers for 5.1 wireless dolby digital on the Ultra.
It sounds like 4.1 as I read it.
It automatically processes and plays the Center, Front Left, and Front Right audio channels and the subwoofer channel using an advanced algorithm.
You don't need a fancy algorithm if you are just routing the audio. Hopefully you can just add more devices to get the missing channels.
 
Ed,

You've had a few different power amps connected to the WiiM as I recall (B100s, Fosi ZA3s with Burson V7 Vivids op amps, V3 Monos with Sparkos op amps, probably others).

How would you compare the sound of the IOM Ultra to your previous power amps? Was considering some of the ones you've already had but the IOM Ultra looks intriguing as it would match and be a single box, though it would deny me the fun of playing with op amps and owning mono blocks.

My IOM Ultra (Hypex NC252MP stereo power amplifier) came in this evening and as expected, the performance is high enough to be transparently comparable to my last amplifiers (a pair of Topping B100s) while providing significantly more power and being a lovely aesthetic match for my WiiM Ultra streamer.

-Ed
 
Ed,

You've had a few different power amps connected to the WiiM as I recall (B100s, Fosi ZA3s with Burson V7 Vivids op amps, V3 Monos with Sparkos op amps, probably others).

How would you compare the sound of the IOM Ultra to your previous power amps? Was considering some of the ones you've already had but the IOM Ultra looks intriguing as it would match and be a single box, though it would deny me the fun of playing with op amps and owning mono blocks.
Unless the form factor is very important to you, you can get the Audiophonics MPA-S250NC (the exact same amplifier) for quite a bit less. I much prefer its more streamlined, utilitarian form design actually ;)

I don't know why IOM chose to surround their entire amp in the (fake?) black glass... makes it look a little cheap. Personally, I would've preferred an aluminum look all-round.

*oh and compared to what Ed has to say about the 12v trigger: the Audiophonics has both an on/off button at the front + 12v trigg ;)
 
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Ed,

You've had a few different power amps connected to the WiiM as I recall (B100s, Fosi ZA3s with Burson V7 Vivids op amps, V3 Monos with Sparkos op amps, probably others).

How would you compare the sound of the IOM Ultra to your previous power amps? Was considering some of the ones you've already had but the IOM Ultra looks intriguing as it would match and be a single box, though it would deny me the fun of playing with op amps and owning mono blocks.
Being this is ASR, I can tell you they all sound transparent enough that it would be hard to consistently pick them apart blind A/B.

The build quality of the IOM is absolutely tops. No question about it. It’s built like a tank! All the components are just top quality (for example the binding posts, in amazingly thick and hefty enclosure, etc.). Power was way more than sufficient for LS50 Metas. And of course aesthetically it wins by a country mile. Plus, there’s no extra power brick to deal with, and for many, that is a huge positive. Finally, it is amazingly efficient and runs no more than lukewarm. On the negatives, I can say the IOM may or may not have a limitation down the line if you ever move away from the WiiM Ultra to another streamer or source that doesn’t have a 12V trigger out, because the IOM Ultra won’t work without a 12V trigger signal, period. The power switch next to the IEC power port doesn’t force the amp on, it simply allows the amp to be triggered on by the 12V trigger. Also, the IOM sends a mild pop to the speakers when powering on or off. It’s not loud enough to do damage to the speakers, but if you frequently turn your WiiM Ultra off and on, it may be somewhat disturbing.

The V3 Monos have an audio signal-based auto-on/off that is user-defeatable, so some would consider this an advantage for overall flexibility. It doesn’t have any speaker noise when powering on or off. In terms of negatives, some would say thermal management is poor. Some components are cheap (e.g. binding posts).

ZA3 has user-defeatable 12V trigger and I think this is great. It has better thermal management than V3 Mono. The included volume dial, while not remote operable, can come in handy (for example, if running directly from an external DAC without adjustable output voltage, the built in attenuator is perfect for implementing a safety margin for incoming voltage to the amp without requiring a separate preamp). Components, like the V3 Mono, can be cheap (again, binding posts).

B100 sounds sublime, they really do—as long as you have sensitive/efficient speakers. Quality of build and components is excellent, user-defeatable 12V triggers are great. There’s still extra power bricks to deal with. Mainly the problem is low power/headroom.

-Ed
 
I will laugh forever that they included weights inside at the year 2025 to add premium feeling.
Some VERY seasoned person in there advises them but they probably didn't expect a teardown so soon.
Embarrassing really.


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I will laugh forever that they included weights inside at the year 2025 to add premium feeling.
Some VERY seasoned person in there advises them but they probably didn't expect a teardown so soon.
Embarrassing really.


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What's so embarrassing about that?

These weights probably have a functional purpose: to keep the unit in place under the weight of the cables and generally make it a bit more stable.
It shows they pay attention to detail and go to great lengths when it comes to user experience.
 
I will laugh forever that they included weights inside at the year 2025 to add premium feeling.
Some VERY seasoned person in there advises them but they probably didn't expect a teardown so soon.
Embarrassing really.


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Nothing even remotely embarrassing.

Your car almost certainly has ports and holes to make the ‘thud’ sound more appealing when you close it.

By your metric, any penny spent on making a product look or feel ‘better’, but which actually doesn’t improve sound quality, is wasted.

By the way, that’s every single piece of hi-fi out there. I wonder why you don’t mention anything about them?
 
By the way, that’s every single piece of hi-fi out there. I wonder why you don’t mention anything about them?
Don't I?
Go a round around my posts to see,you'll find out I don't give free tickets to anyone.
Either the ones who ADD weight insted of a thicker case for example or the ones who REDUCE weight and size for cost at the expense of thermals.

We have repeatedly shamed CDP's from far back using the same trick for example.
You should do your homework before answering.

Edit:and oh!I'm the first about looks!Original looks preferably if you know what I mean.
 
I don't mind if extra weight can be achieved with simple steel plates inside instead of a 5mm thick aluminum enclosure. As long as the device still feels rigid (which it does). That's just smart design.
 
I will laugh forever that they included weights inside at the year 2025 to add premium feeling.
Some VERY seasoned person in there advises them but they probably didn't expect a teardown so soon.
Embarrassing really.


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I can only guess it could be to add some additional stability to support thicker heavier cables etc. avoid dragging it over!
 
I can only guess it could be to add some additional stability to support thicker heavier cables etc. avoid dragging it over!
My E-MU weights 430 gr and even double 2 meters star quad mogami cable hanging out of it don't drag it.Why?Nice,soft (still after 20 years) feet who stick down.
There are solutions for everything.
 
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