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WiiM Ultra Streamer Preamp Review

Rate this streamer/DAC/Preamp:

  • 1. Poor (headless panther)

    Votes: 4 1.1%
  • 2. Not terrible (postman panther)

    Votes: 42 11.8%
  • 3. Fine (happy panther)

    Votes: 139 39.2%
  • 4. Great (golfing panther)

    Votes: 170 47.9%

  • Total voters
    355
Who here has played with room correction using an external mic? How were your results?

I just ordered a UMIK-1 to see if it improves room correction accuracy with the WiiM Ultra. Wasn’t sure if it would be worth it to pay twice as much for UMIK-2.

-Ed
Weird. I tried to use my UMIK-1 with my Android phone but the phone would not recognize anything was plugged in. From what I can tell some people have had success connecting the UMIK-1 to their phone though?
 
Weird. I tried to use my UMIK-1 with my Android phone but the phone would not recognize anything was plugged in. From what I can tell some people have had success connecting the UMIK-1 to their phone though?
I’ve a myriad number of different devices to try, so we’ll see.
Lenovo Android-based tablet
HiBy R6 Pro II Android-based DAP
iPhone 16 Pro
M4 iPad Pro

Currently only have WiiM Home installed on my iPhone, but shouldn’t be hard to set up the Lenovo Tablet too.

All that said I am loving the WiiM Home app UI design in general as well as the smoothness of the interface. It’s intuitive and slick, much less janky than controlling my HiBy DAP via HiByCast (remote screen cloning) and an overall far nicer experience than the disjointed combination of HiByMusic and Android OS.

-Ed
 
I connected the Umik-1 to a Samsung tablet and it was recognised by the device. I played a lot with RC. I took different approaches and for me I got the best results in seperately measure and save the low frequencies up to 500 hz, then the middle frequencies and as third the high frequencies. In the end I combined the 3 to correct the major flaws and tweak to my liking (don't discount your ears as well)
RC is limited to 10 settings in PEQ.
 
My Ultra's trigger stopped working.
I am using 3.5mm TRS cable with Apollon ncx500st amplifier.
Was great for few days.
I get 0.12V from trigger.
Support is not able to solve it.

It is not a big deal to push 1 button on amplifier, but still.

Maybe there is someone who had similar problem and got it solved?
 
At this price range, with this feature set and flexibility this seems to be an excellent preamp. Perhaps the a new class leader overall. Having parametric eq capability AND a decent MM phono stage in such a compact form factor streaming device is amazing. If one needs more analog inputs for some reason a decent switcher box could be used I suppose.

Pair this with a Buckeye ncore or similar and for less than a $1000 with tax, one could have an extremely powerful, extremely well performing amp & preamp combo that will drive any speaker, take less space and use less power than many old school preamps.

Indeed, with something like the fossi amp-speaker switch, it makes it far more feasible to have a 2 channel system running next to an avr for use with movies etc.

One could spend less on the avr than one may otherwise need to in order to have a decent DAC section and enough power (eg, denon 3700/3800) so long as it had font l/r preouts you can run to the power amp.

Or maybe this little WiiM has a pass through mode that bypasses everything so you can run the avr preouts directly into it without a switcher?

The mini dsp preamps are another option I suppose. Though no phone preamp if that matters. And then one might as well step up to the Dirac licensed versions.

I could see WiiM coming out with an AVR or at least a multi channel processor in a far more affordable and compact form factor. Dolby licensing issues, room processing licenses (audessy, Dirac) would likely be the determinant on the price.

my dream would be for some company, like WiiM, to come out with some sort of semi-modular AVR killer, with something like this preamp but with a few hdmi slots and multi channel pre outs or maybe even hdmi audio only preout to with a multi channel amp or a set of compact 1 or 2 channel amps.

The AVR as a form factor and product solution is looking very old in the tooth and is ripe for disruption. If only a company can figure out the licensing and copy protection morass.
 
...Or maybe this little WiiM has a pass through mode that bypasses everything so you can run the avr preouts directly into it without a switcher?...
The WiiM Ultra has a stereo RCA input.
 
The AVR as a form factor and product solution is looking very old in the tooth and is ripe for disruption. If only a company can figure out the licensing and copy protection morass.
If you mean AVRs being giant black boxes with platforms that haven't seen more than minimal updates in the last decade or two, then sure. But if you mean having a single box to do everything you need for a surround sound system, then definitely not. The trend is toward more integration, not separating things out that have already been successfully integrated into a single box.

I certainly have expressed the hope that someone like Wiim will disrupt the AVR market by doing it in a somewhat more svelte, attractive box with better performance at a reasonable cost. You know, like they've done for the stereo amp and streamer market.
 
my dream would be for some company, like WiiM, to come out with some sort of semi-modular AVR killer, with something like this preamp but with a few hdmi slots and multi channel pre outs or maybe even hdmi audio only preout to with a multi channel amp or a set of compact 1 or 2 channel amps.

NUBERT nuXinema preAV

Personally, I have two Teufel Decoderstation 7 in use ...and one Teufel Ampstation.
 
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Unfortunately that's at AVR pricing but without the amps (granted still more reasonable than most AVPs that are generally more expensive than AVRs). And they haven't even updated it to HDMI 2.1 yet. And no Dirac. Also do we have any measurements of how it performs?
 
My Ultra's trigger stopped working.
I am using 3.5mm TRS cable with Apollon ncx500st amplifier.
Was great for few days.
I get 0.12V from trigger.
Support is not able to solve it.

It is not a big deal to push 1 button on amplifier, but still.

Maybe there is someone who had similar problem and got it solved?

Are you saying you can measure the trigger signal coming from the Wiim? If yes, are you measuring the end of the cable that plugs into the amp?

If so, the Wiim is doing what it is supposed to do so the amp would be the problem.
 
Are you saying you can measure the trigger signal coming from the Wiim? If yes, are you measuring the end of the cable that plugs into the amp?

If so, the Wiim is doing what it is supposed to do so the amp would be the problem.
I took 0.12V as meaning 120mV, so substantially less than the expected trigger voltage. I do see the ambiguity though.
 
Yes, 0.12V or 120mV instead of 12v.
It should output 12V @ ~250mA give or take some current for proper amplifier triggering. Not 120mV. Support cannot solve it because if you are metering it correctly and it is not triggering your amp then it has a issue that needs repair.
 
Screenshot WIIIM TRIGGER 2024-11-16 021225.png
 
I'm happy only for the streaming and preamp. DAC for me is not satisfying in resolving. Sounds narrow and confused. Headphone amp is useless. So I connected the Wiim to an external DAC (loxjie d40 pro) and things are changed. Resolved the dac/headphone problems. The DAC is connected via XLR to a Fosi za3. I used the sub out of fosi instead of Wiim one. Someone has complained Fosi has a 100hz sub fiter, but for me is a perfect cut. The room correction doesn't fit my room. Maybe too wide. Any measurement produce horrible shapes. Bottom line for me a good streamer, but you can save money buying wiim pro and a nice dac
 
I'm happy only for the streaming and preamp. DAC for me is not satisfying in resolving. Sounds narrow and confused.
Yeah I don't think so. Measurements show that the Wiim Ultra's DAC is beyond audibly transparent.
Headphone amp is useless.
It's definitely not useless. An external headphone amp isn't out of the question for those with difficult to drive headphones however.
Bottom line for me a good streamer, but you can save money buying wiim pro and a nice dac
The Loxjie D40 Pro does perform a bit better, but not audibly so. So you're definitely not saving money going that route. Wiim Ultra plus a dedicated HP amp like the Topping L50 would be a better way to go, presuming you need a better HP amp than what the Wiim Ultra provides.
 
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