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Bluesound could do with a little competition at this point.So no, I don't think this is ever going to happen.
Bluesound could do with a little competition at this point.So no, I don't think this is ever going to happen.
So you agree that TOSLINK doesn't max out at 96 kHz officially?
Because it doesn't. Even if some devices are limited to 96 kHz.
The S15 looks like a seriously beautiful piece of kit. However, I personally would vastly prefer the Wiim. Fiio describes the upcoming product functionally as a landscape mode version of the R9. The R7/R9 are Android based touchscreen setups that simply run the regular smartphone apps of various streaming services. It has a phone app, but it is extremely rudimentary. Looks like people like it with Roon so you might be fine, but it seems like it is centered around you manipulating things using the touchscreen rather than by phone.Hello,
Within a month, I will be receiving a pair of Genelec 8361. My setup will be pretty simple: ROON (Qobuz and Synology NAS): digital output into 8361s; nothing more. Ultra is obviously a "good" solution in this context. I recently noticed that a FiiO streamer (S15) was due to be released soon. It will have digital AES out (Genelec recommended connexion) and analog XLR out (that I may use as well with FOSI amp). Room correction and bass management will come from GLM Genelec. Therefore, no use for ULTRA sub out / room correction / ... I will be waiting for S15 detailed specs. All comments welcome.
1. How many profiles of eq can this thing store for quick access.It's one and the same thing. Room Correction creates a set of 10 PEQ filters. You can use them as they are, you can manually modify them, you can make your own. There's nothing secret inside WiiM RC.
Not sure what you mean. Sub integration is always manual in that you have to select a crossover frequency (low pass to sub and high pass to mains by default), subwoofer level and delay in ms (for either mains or - more likely - the sub).
The filters (high and low pass) are 4th order Linkwitz-Riley. There's a new option to bypass either the low pass filter or the high pass filter or both.
Automatic RC doesn't do anything specific to the subwoofer output. It just corrects within the defined frequency range (default: 40 Hz to 4 kHz).
Thanks' for your comments, Ultra is my initial / first choice and still is. S15 Digital AES and analog XLR outs are main advantages to me. I already have cable and Neutrik impedance adaptor for coax to AES. I have tested comparatively the two options (AES to AES / coax to AES) with one DMP A8 and found slight sound differences but unable to say if one is "better" than the other. I "prefered" AES to AES. Screen is OK to me and I prefer S15 form factor. Having read a few threads on R7 and R9, Android apps run smoothly (Roon and Qobuz are enough for me). I cannot find many details on FiiO phone app. Android OS is also a guaranty of compatibility for many years.The S15 looks like a seriously beautiful piece of kit. However, I personally would vastly prefer the Wiim. Fiio describes the upcoming product functionally as a landscape mode version of the R9. The R7/R9 are Android based touchscreen setups that simply run the regular smartphone apps of various streaming services. It has a phone app, but it is extremely rudimentary. Looks like people like it with Roon so you might be fine, but it seems like it is centered around you manipulating things using the touchscreen rather than by phone.
People in this thread claim that so long as the run is short, you can use an rca coax to AES adapter like this without a transformer and it should work fine. It's crazy to me that Genelec doesn't include Toslink and Coax. I know they market to the pros but still I'm sure there's many a pro who has found that a limitation.
Which adapter was used?coax to AES
Coax-BNC / Neutrik impedance adapter / AESWhich adapter was used?
I didn't find a limit yet.1. How many profiles of eq can this thing store for quick access.
Different EQ settings would be a much more flexible way of doing it and just as easy.2. Regarding the new option to bypass high or low pass. This would be useful for listening at different times of day.
If combined with eq profiles, it could mean listening without the subwoofer when required.
There are 10 "bands" of PEQ that you can assign to whatever frequency range you want. It doesn't matter if the given frequency happens to be covered by the sub of the mains. It's totally up to you.3. With the sub out, Can the sub be eq’d seperately from the main stereos.
Otherwise the only advantage of the sub out is high/low pass in the software compared to using the back of the subwoofer manual settings.
I bought following adapter (passive)This will explain the audible difference. Take a look at the signal flow chart of an active adapter: Link
The clock signal is contained in the data stream and the switching points jitter more on the edges due to the lower SNR caused by a lower signal level. Such deficits can be visualized on an eye diagram. A impedance mismatch causes further interference due to reflections, i.e. for an optimum result (more audible details, ...) the voltage level/impedance must be matched.
This is exactly what an active adapter offers.
What can be triggered by a parity error depends on the implementation.
The simple correction method is: Take the last valid sample, which in turn has an effect on the sound.
I didn't find a limit yet.
Different EQ settings would be a much more flexible way of doing it and just as easy.
There are 10 "bands" of PEQ that you can assign to whatever frequency range you want. It doesn't matter if the given frequency happens to be covered by the sub of the mains. It's totally up to you.
I don't see how limiting a fixed number of PEQ settings to the sub and another fixed number to the mains should be more useful. If they decided to make it e.g. 10 settings for the mains and an additional 5 settings for the subs, then surely I would be there asking for assining all 15 settings to everything.
With PEQ I only see potential drawbacks. If you happen to change the crossover frequency later, what should happen to PEQ settings that are now no longer in the subwoofer's frequency range? If all you have is fixed frequency GEQ there might be some use for this split. But with fully flexible PEQ ... not so.
How much research have you actually done?I require 3 profiles of 10 band eq manually created or entered.
All digital inputs should have the same 3 profiles available.
I have nothing analogue to use with Wiim, and will not even use the headphone out.
The digital signal out from the Wiim will go to an external dac, and then to speaker setup or headphones thereafter.
I will be using the rme adi2 for dac/preamp/headphone out purposes.
The rme adi2 only has 5 band eq.
I want to do the eq on the Wiim because it gives 10 band tuning as well as being in the digital domain.
The three profiles are for:
1. Speaker stereo setup with a sub.
2. Speaker stereo setup without sub.
3. Headphones.
I want to be able to toggle between the 3 profile eq according to my required listening.
How do you mean review? There are lots of posts, on both the Wiim forum and here, by users sharing their results and experiences. Here's one such post by meHas someone reviewed the room correction feature?
Take what I say with a grain of salt because I don't know much about these things. What you say sounds plausible, but:This will explain the audible difference. Take a look at the signal flow chart of an active adapter: Link
The clock signal is contained in the data stream and the switching points jitter more on the edges due to the lower SNR caused by a lower signal level. Such deficits can be visualized on an eye diagram. A impedance mismatch causes further interference due to reflections, i.e. for an optimum result (more audible details, ...) the voltage level/impedance must be matched.
This is exactly what an active adapter offers.
What can be triggered by a parity error depends on the implementation.
The simple correction method is: Take the last valid sample, which in turn has an effect on the sound.