Every PC networked in the same environment should be able to see the Wiim as a device it can stream to directly. The Wiim acts as a streamer either via Ethernet or USB, only the latter is more cumbersome... 
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WiiM Ultra... Am I missing something?
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I don't disagree with any of your points. The issues I listed are my issues with it I'm sure others don't have the same situation. And because of its versatility and how much I like other Wiim products I have pre-ordered one.
As far as room correction, the calibration mics often included with AVRs don't seem like they're very expensive. Thanks for your input.
As far as room correction, the calibration mics often included with AVRs don't seem like they're very expensive. Thanks for your input.
Yorkshire Mouth
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If you’re saying you’d like each WiiM to come with its own calibration mic., like AVRs do, then I agree.
As do I - if you cannot support Android devices then please attach one of those cheap AVR mics
Considering upgrading to the Ultra from the Pro just for the sub-out. Currently running the output of the Pro 2x through a CleanBox Pro to get separately adjustable overall gain + sub gain. Conveniently, it let's me get +4dB gain on the sub out, which I happen to need for this setup. Just wondering if I'll have similar capability to juice the sub out w/r/t gain adjustments/range?
Aside: I wish WiiM would make a more cost-effective competitor to the Emotiva and miniDSP options for my future home theater build.
Aside: I wish WiiM would make a more cost-effective competitor to the Emotiva and miniDSP options for my future home theater build.
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Depends.
You can make the Sub out 4dB louder than the Main out, but all outputs are limited to 2Vrms.
So if you set the Sub to +4dB, then the Main out will max out at 1.3V, to preserve the 4dB gap.
Thanks, that should work.
Technically, you don’t need a Wiim Ultra if you have a PC computer acts like a media server. All the benefits from WiiM are just the software they offered and maybe the way it looks fancy. streamer !!
My setup is simple.
- PC->Dac->Pre-tube->Amp and Mono amp.
- Router - Cat 7 cable to all. Or wifi for fun
- NUC mini setup as a media server 24TB and Roon bridge, Nas or whatever we called
I don’t think adding Wiim will bring you “music fidelity, music quality” to your system but just a convenience thing if you don’t have a computer.
Cheers.
My setup is simple.
- PC->Dac->Pre-tube->Amp and Mono amp.
- Router - Cat 7 cable to all. Or wifi for fun
- NUC mini setup as a media server 24TB and Roon bridge, Nas or whatever we called
I don’t think adding Wiim will bring you “music fidelity, music quality” to your system but just a convenience thing if you don’t have a computer.
Cheers.
lowkeyoperations
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^agreed. I’m running a Mac Mini as my media streamer. I have a usb turntable connected, Spotify etc running into SoundSource hosting Dirac Live room correction. Then a digital coax out to active Dynaudio XD20s.
But my wife really dislikes it because “it’s too complicated”.
The Wiim Ultra looks like a good alternative that can do the same thing with a nicer UI. I’m just waiting to hear reviews of the room correction software vs Dirac live.
But my wife really dislikes it because “it’s too complicated”.
The Wiim Ultra looks like a good alternative that can do the same thing with a nicer UI. I’m just waiting to hear reviews of the room correction software vs Dirac live.
Yorkshire Mouth
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There are other advantages.
I have Amazon Music. If I play anything on my phone, or my PC, it upscale everything to 192/24.
If I send it to my WiiM from my phone, I get the original resolution.
The WiiM also gives you output over stereo and subwoofer, with full bass management. I’ve never seen this being done with a PC.
If you can't do all that on a PC it really just means you aren't running the right software on your PC
That said I use a Wiim myself as music server these days and if my PC is in the system it's only running Tidal connect to drive the Wiim - computers are my day job and I prefer not to spend my home time on them for audio, but everything I do on the Wiim could be done on PC.
If you can't do all that on a PC it really just means you aren't running the right software on your PC
What software running on a PC will deliver bit perfect Amazon Music that doesn’t upscale every track to the resolution set for your sound card? None that I’m aware of
Yorkshire Mouth
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If you can't do all that on a PC it really just means you aren't running the right software on your PC
That said I use a Wiim myself as music server these days and if my PC is in the system it's only running Tidal connect to drive the Wiim - computers are my day job and I prefer not to spend my home time on them for audio, but everything I do on the Wiim could be done on PC.
How do you get 3 outs (L, R and Sub) from a PC?
And as for the Amazon thing, using the WiiM is the only known work around for the Amazon app.
I’m a Roon user, it’s build in dsp, room correction, zone, database and Eq management. I don’t use Amazon but Qobuz & Tidal ! With Roon, you can remote music from house to work multi DAC management as well .. you can use iPhone, iPad as remote For upscaling , better use HQPlayer, depends on DAC to PCM1536 or DSD 1024 . I don’t do upscale, leave it as is
Again, if you have a computer with media server then Wiim is just a fancy product without improving your quality of music but a convenience thing.
Have you heard about, audirvana, Roon, foobar, hqplayer, Tidal, Qobuz, Deezer !! Their apps are wisely used by audiophile.
For less quality music, you can choose Amazon, Apple, Spotify or Youtube
Yorkshire Mouth
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So this really doesn’t answer either of the questions.
Firstly, okay I suppose there’s an implicit answer here, you can’t use Amazon with Roon anyway. I’d noted that it’s not so good if you can’t stream in native resolution from Amazon without WiiM, the defence that with Roon you can’t use it all isn’t the best argument I’ve ever heard.
Secondly, and for the third time, if you’re playing your music using a PC, how do you get 3-channel (L/R/Sub) outputs?
Yorkshire Mouth
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Amazon HD is not…ahem ‘less quality’ (sic).
You’re clearly not au fait with Amazon or Apple Music which have been offering lossless hires tracks up to 24/192 for a long time, maybe even before Deezer only offered CD quality tracks - grouping them with lossy Spotify and YouTube only underlines your ignorance.
I am sure many here will argue tying yourself to Amazon Music is ignorant. You do you, just don't pretend you are getting better sound quality with that particular combination of components.
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