Wiim Pro Plus vs Wiim Mini + Topping e30 ii

[jpcesar]

I've jumped the prime day bandwagon and got myself a wiim pro plus mainly because I was curious to test out the room correction feature (I'm already the owner of a wiim mini who does not support it)

But first I decided to compare the dacs:

My Setup is the following:

Source 1: Tidal > Wiim mini > optical out > topping e30ii > rega brio > ELAC Debut Reference DBR62
Source 2: Tidal > Wiim Pro Plus > rega brio > ELAC Debut Reference DBR62

On the wiim app, both devices have fixed output with the same volume settings and I've linked both devices so so both wiims are essencially playing the same track from the same source at the same time.

By just changing the source on the rega brio during play, and I can hear better transients and more punchy sound comming from the mini + topping. The difference is very noticeable making the wiim pro plus more dull in comparison.

I was not expecting this. Does not make sense to me to keep the pro plus for the room correction alone, since I can copy the same settings and apply them on the mini EQ anyway, so I think I will return the wiim pro plus

Is anything else that may be contributing to these results?

 

[Norcal]

I've jumped the prime day bandwagon and got myself a wiim pro plus mainly because I was curious to test out the room correction feature (I'm already the owner of a wiim mini who does not support it)

But first I decided to compare the dacs:

My Setup is the following:

Source 1: Tidal > Wiim mini > optical out > topping e30ii > rega brio > ELAC Debut Reference DBR62
Source 2: Tidal > Wiim Pro Plus > rega brio > ELAC Debut Reference DBR62

On the wiim app, both devices have fixed output with the same volume settings and I've linked both devices so so both wiims are essencially playing the same track from the same source at the same time.

By just changing the source on the rega brio during play, and I can hear better transients and more punchy sound comming from the mini + topping. The difference is very noticeable making the wiim pro plus more dull in comparison.

I was not expecting this. Does not make sense to me to keep the pro plus for the room correction alone, since I can copy the same settings and apply them on the mini EQ anyway, so I think I will return the wiim pro plus

Is anything else that may be contributing to these results?

Most likely you are not level-matched between the two conditions...

 

[jpcesar]

I hear you. Double checked and wiim output is at 2 vrms while topping is at 2.1 vrms, that could explain it?

 

[staticV3]

A discrepancy in output voltage may not necessarily explain your listening impressions, but it will for sure invalidate your impressions of sound signature.

 

[raif71]

If it was me, take the better sounding setup. In a practical setup, you're not going to play around with the output voltage.

 

[Joffy1780]

They will both sound the same (level matched), but if you think the mini+e30II sounds better, then go with that as you'll probably always that little nagging doubt at the back of your mind.

 

[privilege15]

What does the measurement mic show when you run a sweep? Is the sound at exactly the same level between both? Is the SPL curve the same between both? If both are identical try a blind test, ask someone to change sources. If your guess rate is 50/50 then there is no difference. If you got it 10 out of 10, then there's difference.

 

[greg28]

Hello,

so i am using the Wiim Pro Plus as drive network (wifi) and a Toppin e30 II is the external DAC (on RCA coxial output). I have the same notice as you. The Toppin E30 II is more dynamic and more fine for sound stage / détails. The toppin E30 II is a dual DAC (AK4493S / channel) with more resolution. From an another web site, the reviewer recommends to use the Wiim Pro + with Toppin E30 II as an ext. DAC.

 

[jpcesar]

Yeah, I didn't lose too much time with this, just returned the Wimm Pro Plus and kept the wiim mini + e30II. Thanks !

 

[Laserjock]

Yeah, I didn't lose too much time with this, just returned the Wimm Pro Plus and kept the wiim mini + e30II. Thanks !

Does the Wiim mini give you Room Correction/equalization?

 

[jpcesar]

I took the room correction setting that wiim pro plus applied and copied to the wiim mini eq