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WiiM Pro Plus Streamer Review

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    Votes: 3 0.6%
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I'm currently using a Burr Brown DAC that is built into my Yamaha A-S701 stereo amp. CDs are from a PS3 via HDMI to an LG oled TV then Toslink to the Amp, Tidal via an LG TV app and again Toslink to the Amp.

Would I hear much real world difference moving to a Wiim Pro Plus and using the Wiim DAC for Tidal, with RCA out to the Amp, and CDs from a Denon DCD 900?
You're unlikely to hear much of a difference from the cleaner signal chain or the WiiM's improved DAC.

You're likely to hear a sizeable difference in sound quality from using the WiiM's room correction though.
 
using the Wiim DAC for Tidal
That sure seems easier than using the TV as a source. Could sound better but honestly, unlikely to be audible.
 
I'm currently using a Burr Brown DAC that is built into my Yamaha A-S701 stereo amp. CDs are from a PS3 via HDMI to an LG oled TV then Toslink to the Amp, Tidal via an LG TV app and again Toslink to the Amp.

Would I hear much real world difference moving to a Wiim Pro Plus and using the Wiim DAC for Tidal, with RCA out to the Amp, and CDs from a Denon DCD 900?
Exceptionally unlikely. The DAC isn't the best. It degrades the amp SINAD by about 6dB compared with the analogue input. But it is still good enough to be audibly transparent for pretty much everyone in real world listening with speakers.


EDIT - to agree with @staticV3's statement regarding room correction.
 
I'm currently using a Burr Brown DAC that is built into my Yamaha A-S701 stereo amp. CDs are from a PS3 via HDMI to an LG oled TV then Toslink to the Amp, Tidal via an LG TV app and again Toslink to the Amp.

Would I hear much real world difference moving to a Wiim Pro Plus and using the Wiim DAC for Tidal, with RCA out to the Amp, and CDs from a Denon DCD 900?

Analog out of the Wiim Pro Plus would be better on paper, but both should sound transparent
 
I am thinking about buying Neumann kh120 ii and connecting them to the Wiim pro plus so I can connect my tv.
I have a question about the quality of the room correction. Is the system Neumann offers significantly better than what Wiim can do?
 
I am thinking about buying Neumann kh120 ii and connecting them to the Wiim pro plus so I can connect my tv.
I have a question about the quality of the room correction. Is the system Neumann offers significantly better than what Wiim can do?
It seems that for full DSP correction you also need the MA1 from Neumann at £279 or whatever your local currency is. At that price, it’s more than the Wiim so I’d expect it to be better! As these are near field monitors I guess you’d need to see if you really need room correction.

Will be interested if anybody has tried both, but I’m guessing it may be unlikely. In any event, the Wiim with an external mic may be an intermediate step, though I found it caught the basic modes with the iPhone as instructed. Then you can tweak each cut manually, where reducing by around a third worked for me.
 
No..not so easy..
You can use small dayton usb (with cal) 45dollars or umik (cal too) connect to your phone...
Microphone is not problem.
Software is important...
 
I am thinking about buying Neumann kh120 ii and connecting them to the Wiim pro plus so I can connect my tv.
The Pro Plus makes not much sense here.

Choose the regular Pro, connect your Neumann via SPDIF, and you'll get higher fidelity than via RCA out of the Pro Plus, since that removes two unneeded signal conversions from the chain. And it costs less.

I have a question about the quality of the room correction. Is the system Neumann offers significantly better than what Wiim can do?
MA1 does phase correction in addition to amplitude, so it is technically better.

Though when WiiM EQ is used skillfully (ideally with REW, UMIK-1, and the Moving Microphone Method), I'm not at all confident that one could hear a difference between it and MA1.
 
Thank you. I was thinking of connecting the tv via digital audio out to the Wiim and maybe adding an Apple TV down the road. Still viable or do I need the ultra with e arc?
 
Thank you. I was thinking of connecting the tv via digital audio out to the Wiim and maybe adding an Apple TV down the road. Still viable or do I need the ultra with e arc?
Definitely viable with the WiiM Pro.

The WiiM Ultra's benefits would be volume control via TV/Apple TV remote, Subwoofer integration, and Dolby Digital decode.
 
I have a question about the quality of the room correction. Is the system Neumann offers significantly better than what Wiim can do?
Wiim's RoomFit has been (and probably still is) a moving target. How good it will be also depends on what hardware you're using. On Android there's a lot of variation between mic response from different manufacturers and models, so you really need a calibrated external mic like the UMIK-1 or Dayton models mentioned earlier if you want a good result. On iOS you can probably get away with the internal mic as Apple has worked on having a consistent mic response across all models, although a calibrate external mic should still offer some improvement. I can't comment on how well MA-1 performs, but it only runs on Windows which might be a limitation for some.

It's also possible to use both with manually set filters, although last I heard you need to use 3rd party software like khtool to set the filters manually in the Neumanns. In this case you'd use something like REW to take measurements and design the filters.
 
Been listening to a Pro Plus with Vibelink amp thru Revel F35 speakers, Amazon Music "Ultra HD" stream which varies all over the road from 16/44 to 24/192 and in there in is the rub. Level matching as best as I can, the higher bit depth and sample rate files sound inferior to 16/44 files. Now I have not compared the same music with different "resolution" as there is no way I know of to do that with Amazon Music but giving Google's AI a quick ask seems that other folks are hearing the same thing. (?)
 
Been listening to a Pro Plus with Vibelink amp thru Revel F35 speakers, Amazon Music "Ultra HD" stream which varies all over the road from 16/44 to 24/192 and in there in is the rub. Level matching as best as I can, the higher bit depth and sample rate files sound inferior to 16/44 files. Now I have not compared the same music with different "resolution" as there is no way I know of to do that with Amazon Music but giving Google's AI a quick ask seems that other folks are hearing the same thing. (?)
Meaningless unless:

1 - you don't know which resolution you are listening to (blind comparison)
2 - confirmed identical mastering (and level)
3 - Any AI hallucinations are ignored
 
Been listening to a Pro Plus with Vibelink amp thru Revel F35 speakers, Amazon Music "Ultra HD" stream which varies all over the road from 16/44 to 24/192 and in there in is the rub. Level matching as best as I can, the higher bit depth and sample rate files sound inferior to 16/44 files. Now I have not compared the same music with different "resolution" as there is no way I know of to do that with Amazon Music but giving Google's AI a quick ask seems that other folks are hearing the same thing. (?)
I think that overall it only matters that you like what you are hearing. Some of the 24/192 songs could technically sound worse if they were just upscaled to 24/192 because then the quality would depend on the software that did the upscaling. In my experiences; Audio recorded in 24/192 naturally does sound clearer, but I don't have any professional recording studio to totally validate this. Just recordings with my phones and some decent Mics.
 
Been listening to a Pro Plus with Vibelink amp thru Revel F35 speakers, Amazon Music "Ultra HD" stream which varies all over the road from 16/44 to 24/192 and in there in is the rub. Level matching as best as I can, the higher bit depth and sample rate files sound inferior to 16/44 files. Now I have not compared the same music with different "resolution" as there is no way I know of to do that with Amazon Music but giving Google's AI a quick ask seems that other folks are hearing the same thing. (?)
You can be listening different masters.

Give an example:

"Il Barbieri di Siviglia" in the first CD edition is available in 16/44 (the famous version of Maria Callas and Ricardo Mutti).

You can choose also 24/192 version which is a studio master of another remasterization, which (IMO) sounds so "thin" and little bit aggressive in the high end, which can be the result of noise remove algorithms.

In this case, both versions have the same recording source but different treatment.

Sadly many "high res versions" of rock or jazz versions are made from poorer masters, and the result is a poorer version because increasing resolution don't add anything better to the 16/44

Others, the minority in my opinión, are excellent reconstructions of ancient recordings, but they wisely keep at maximum 24/48.
 
I think that overall it only matters that you like what you are hearing. Some of the 24/192 songs could technically sound worse if they were just upscaled to 24/192 because then the quality would depend on the software that did the upscaling. In my experiences; Audio recorded in 24/192 naturally does sound clearer, but I don't have any professional recording studio to totally validate this. Just recordings with my phones and some decent Mics.
Do you ever listen to an upscaled version that is audible different from the original?

Sounds impossible, many DACs with PEQ or even for preserve information in low digital volumes upscale to 24/192.

Don't make any sense the upscale sounding different...
 
You can be listening different masters.

Give an example:

"Il Barbieri di Siviglia" in the first CD edition is available in 16/44 (the famous version of Maria Callas and Ricardo Mutti).

You can choose also 24/192 version which is a studio master of another remasterization, which (IMO) sounds so "thin" and little bit aggressive in the high end, which can be the result of noise remove algorithms.

In this case, both versions have the same recording source but different treatment.

Sadly many "high res versions" of rock or jazz versions are made from poorer masters, and the result is a poorer version because increasing resolution don't add anything better to the 16/44

Others, the minority in my opinión, are excellent reconstructions of ancient recordings, but they wisely keep at maximum 24/48.
Not Muti but Alceo Galliera, poor Muti was too young at the time of this recording. Regarding the reissue of Callas' recordings at EMI, one learns some interesting things by reading the booklet that comes with the latest... The previous CD editions were all made from copies of the original tapes created back in the LP days and corrected accordingly... When they were digitized for the first CD edition, they were corrected to address the issues of these already corrected analog copies: but the corrections worsened many things... The second CD edition announced as being made with a 24/96 digitization was in fact a conversion of the 16/44.1 copy that had already been corrected, so it was corrected again... hence the disaster of the two CD editions known until the 3rd and final one... For which EMI went back to the original master tapes to digitize them in 24/192 and very minimally correct...

The only way to compare 16/44.1 and 24/192 is to convert 24/192 files to 16/44.1 with DbPoweramp and compare the two... You can't do it from a platform because you never know if the 16/44.1 versions and those in 24/48, 96, or 192 come from the same master, so that the 16/44.1 is just a conversion of a file in 24 bits and a higher sampling rate.
As for me, I did it without ever hearing the slightest difference between the different resolutions.
 
Not Muti but Alceo Galliera, poor Muti was too young at the time of this recording. Regarding the reissue of Callas' recordings at EMI, one learns some interesting things by reading the booklet that comes with the latest... The previous CD editions were all made from copies of the original tapes created back in the LP days and corrected accordingly... When they were digitized for the first CD edition, they were corrected to address the issues of these already corrected analog copies: but the corrections worsened many things... The second CD edition announced as being made with a 24/96 digitization was in fact a conversion of the 16/44.1 copy that had already been corrected, so it was corrected again... hence the disaster of the two CD editions known until the 3rd and final one... For which EMI went back to the original master tapes to digitize them in 24/192 and very minimally correct...

The only way to compare 16/44.1 and 24/192 is to convert 24/192 files to 16/44.1 with DbPoweramp and compare the two... You can't do it from a platform because you never know if the 16/44.1 versions and those in 24/48, 96, or 192 come from the same master, so that the 16/44.1 is just a conversion of a file in 24 bits and a higher sampling rate.
As for me, I did it without ever hearing the slightest difference between the different resolutions.
Yes, I quoted by memory, don't know why I worte Ricardo Mutti.

You mean this one (the latest I know, but there are another with the sale cover in Tidal, 24/192 that sounds bizarre, or may be psychological).

This I putted here sound better to my ears than the original one, but may also be psychologically induced.

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Do you ever listen to an upscaled version that is audible different from the original?

Sounds impossible, many DACs with PEQ or even for preserve information in low digital volumes upscale to 24/192.

Don't make any sense the upscale sounding different...
There have been some pretty poor resamplers in widely used software - see https://src.infinitewave.ca/ Ableton Live 7 for an example that may be audible from something well known. There are worse ones in there. It shouldn't happen today as the bad ones have generally cleared up their act in more recent versions, but it's conceivable that older upscaled tracks could have been done with one where it's audibly different.
 
I know JRiver doesn't do very well resampling/transcoding DSD to PCM. It's very audible.
 
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