Wiim Pro or Wiim Mini+Dac

[Ralph_Cramden]

I am surprised at all the pumpers of this product. I agree it is inexpensive and for the price it does sound fine. Maybe some do not have a very resolving system and cannot tell the difference. I was testing with headphones so easier to hear the lack of detail and depth and width of soundstage. A non audiophile person could hear the difference between the WiiM and just the Node not to mention better streamers.

ROFL.

 

[irontortoise]

Wow a Moderator would post some lame comment like that?

I spent hours testing and system matching. The WiiM mini is ok for $80 but does not compare to other streamers in sound quality - that is a fact.

I will not waste any more time on this as you likely will just delete the post anyway.

Thanks for being lame.

Show us measurements, otherwise this is meaningless.

 

[Michael G]

Wow a Moderator would post some lame comment like that?

I spent hours testing and system matching. The WiiM mini is ok for $80 but does not compare to other streamers in sound quality - that is a fact.

I will not waste any more time on this as you likely will just delete the post anyway.

Thanks for being lame.

Curious as to what are you basing this comment on?

 

[Leonid Khachaturov]

I have compared the following two configurations:

Matrix X-SPDIF 2 via AES/EBU to Mark Levinson 360S
WiiM Mini via optical to the same DAC

The latter is noticeably worse sounding. I know I should probably compare apples to apples (use optical in both cases) but I haven't bothered yet.

 

[Michael G]

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I have compared the following two configurations:

Matrix X-SPDIF 2 via AES/EBU to Mark Levinson 360S
WiiM Mini via optical to the same DAC

The latter is noticeably worse sounding. I know I should probably compare apples to apples (use optical in both cases) but I haven't bothered yet.

Out of curiosity, what are you using as a music source for both the Matrix, and the Mini?

 

[Leonid Khachaturov]

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Out of curiosity, what are you using as a music source for both the Matrix, and the Mini?

Matrix is connected to a laptop that either runs the Qobuz app or local streaming from a NAS. WiiM is used with Qobuz streaming from an iPhone.

 

[Michael G]

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Out of curiosity, what are you using as a music source for both the Matrix, and the Mini?

I should have also asked how the music source connects with each device ... accidentally pushed send to early

 

[Overseas]

.WiiM is used with Qobuz streaming from an iPhone.

You mean Bluetooth?! That explains it.

 

[Leonid Khachaturov]

I should have also asked how the music source connects with each device ... accidentally pushed send to early

Well, USB with the Matrix and in case of WiiM it is itself the source.

 

[Leonid Khachaturov]

You mean Bluetooth?! That explains it.

No, it doesn't mean Bluetooth. WiiM receives commands from the control app but it is itself the source.

 

[Overseas]

Streaming from an Iphone to Wiim is totally diferent than: Wiim streaming via Wifi or Ethernet. So which one?

 

[dweeeeb2]

OP there is a forum on the wiim home page. Someone has done some measurements. Both DAC’s are pretty average. When using EQ you lose bit perfect output. Pro can eq an optical in which could be handy.

 

[Michael G]

No, it doesn't mean Bluetooth. WiiM receives commands from the control app but it is itself the source.

Just to confirm, are you receiving Qobuz through a wifi connection to the Mini with the Mini itself being controlled through an app on the phone? Also, what is the bit rate being sent to your dac through both the Matrix and the Mini?

 

[Leonid Khachaturov]

Streaming from an Iphone to Wiim is totally diferent than: Wiim streaming via Wifi or Ethernet. So which one?

It's the latter.

 

[Overseas]

If the later, what was your Wifi source for the Wiim?

 

[onlyoneme]

Matrix is connected to a laptop that either runs the Qobuz app or local streaming from a NAS. WiiM is used with Qobuz streaming from an iPhone.

So you probably use AirPlay to cast Qobuz content from your iPhone to the WiiM as there is no "Qobuz Connect" feature yet available.

 

[BDWoody]

I know I should probably compare apples to apples

Have you looked into how to do a comparison that might be useful?

Our host put together a video to help better understand what a controlled test might look like:

 

[Overseas]

The 2 setups may sound different.
Vintage Flanker just measured the Pro for Wifi streaming with optical out. It is perfect.

If you messed with EQ in one of the setups, then it can explain.

 

[Leonid Khachaturov]

So you probably use AirPlay to cast Qobuz content from your iPhone to the WiiM as there is no "Qobuz Connect" feature yet available.

I mean... https://faq-mini.wiimhome.com/suppo...rt-24bits-192khz-hi-res-resolution-via-qobuz- means that it isn't AirPlay. Qobuz Connect, as far as I understand, means being able to use the native Qobuz app, not the kind of imitation UI implemented inside the WiiM app. In terms of streaming quality it is the same.

 

[onlyoneme]

I mean... https://faq-mini.wiimhome.com/suppo...rt-24bits-192khz-hi-res-resolution-via-qobuz- means that it isn't AirPlay.

Did you use WiiM Home app to play Qobuz content on the WiiM?