WiiM Mini Streamer

[Smartplug]

I would have thought you’d known by now that these dates are purely indicative - think of them as around mid month and around the end of the month, nothing more accurate than that. Thank god they don’t put a rough time of day on them too…

Haha, I know I just like reminding to get that stuff release on time. I had beta before it cause stuttering so I went to official firmware. I don’t know if that issue has been resolve. Only way to know when get release.

 

[Ralph_Cramden]

Depends how do you define being "bit-perfect"...
Anyway, non-EQ mode is free of clipping distortions, EQ mode is broken and distorted even with "flat" preset.

Flat EQ. @WiiM Support

 

[Smartplug]

Flat EQ. @WiiM Support

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What equipment you use to measure those?

 

[Ralph_Cramden]

What equipment you use to measure those?

Sox generated 1kHz -0.1dB test tone -> LMS server -> UPnP -> WiiM Mini -> RME ADI-2 DAC FS optical in -> RME ADI-2 DAC FS USB out -> linux box -> Sox capture (rec) -> .wav file.

Visualization of captured .wav file with Python scipy -> numpy fft -> matplotlib.

 

[Jpdelaney.tml]

WhT about 0 dB 1khz, produces same as -0.1 Dan? I like dumb questions

 

[Ralph_Cramden]

WhT about 0 dB 1khz, produces same as -0.1 Dan? I like dumb questions

Sox generator clips when I tried to create at 0dB, so use -0.1dB instead, to ensure test tone is pure.

sox WARN dither: dither clipped 1062 samples; decrease volume?

 

[Jpdelaney.tml]

Sox generator clips when I tried to create at 0dB, so use -0.1dB instead, to ensure test tone is pure.

sox WARN dither: dither clipped 1062 samples; decrease volume?

Fair enough!

 

[lordhumungous]

WiiM have already said the Pro won’t support usb audio. You’ll need to wait for the model after that…

I understand the need for USB out. Some dacs just sound better using USB, especially more current dacs.

 

[lordhumungous]

I'm really impressed with Wiim as a company. There software has been outstanding and I have recommended their products to others
which I usually don't do. Keep up those great measurements on the Pro !!

 

[Philsen89]

Anyone received yet?

Updates to be
released by 11/15
New features:

• MQA for both MQA render and non-MQA render DAC (Public preview)

Wiim told me to get on the beta whitelist a few times but for now, nothing happened. I’m just writing every week a reminder in my ticket, but there’s no answer since 3 weeks. In the beginning I loved their communication, but for now it’s just worse. I have 4 open emails to them and simply no reaction. Just a little “sorry, we are so busy” would be ok.

But no, nothing.

 

[Smartplug]

Anyone received yet?

Updates to be
released by 11/15
New features:

• MQA for both MQA render and non-MQA render DAC (Public preview)

Wiim told me to get on the beta whitelist a few times but for now, nothing happened. I’m just writing every week a reminder in my ticket, but there’s no answer since 3 weeks. In the beginning I loved their communication, but for now it’s just worse. I have 4 open emails to them and simply no reaction. Just a little “sorry, we are so busy” would be ok.

But no, nothing.

I’m looking forward to this, I haven’t got it.

 

[rmsanger]

“We're expecting WiiM Pro to launch by late November to early December”. Xmas then

WiiM Pro Preview

Here's a rendering of what WiiM Pro will look like. We're expecting WiiM Pro to launch by early December and will be sold through Amazon.com. More info will be on our website www.wiimhome.com. Please stay tuned! In the meantime, we'd love to hear your thoughts on what you think of WiiM Pro ...

wiim.community.forum

Has anybody heard updated timing of this product release for 2022?

 

[TimW]

Has anybody heard updated timing of this product release for 2022?

They launched the Amazon listing already if you haven't seen that, although it's not available yet. They have been giving updates on their forum.

 

[Silver Chips]

Has anybody heard updated timing of this product release for 2022?

I wouldn't be banking for a Santa delivery this year, most likely 1st or 2nd qtr of '23.
On another site, it was said Wiim started there Design Validation and Testing (DVT) stage at the end of Oct., after however long that takes, the next step would be PVT (Product Validation and Testing: final design for manufacturing, final design for assembly, and then final packaging & out of box experience tests......etc), when that gets completed, they can then start retail production, then add the shipping time getting those products across the pacific into stores. Timelines for all of this can vary greatly but seriously doubt anyone is going to see a retail box under the Christmas tree or in their home system anytime in '22 or Jan. I would say it's probably more realistic March-April. Hopefully they'll have already pumped out & shipped a bunch of Pro's before the Chinese New Year vacation shutdown (Jan. 22).

It appears the company or a distributor in the US is selling refurnished Mini's for $64 shipped on eBay.

 

[Ralph_Cramden]

Ah, the infamous “some guy on the internet” has spoken, therefore it must be true!

WiiM has stated late Nov / early Dec. we’ll see.

 

[Steve H]

Ah, the infamous “some guy on the internet” has spoken, therefore it must be true!

WiiM has stated late Nov / early Dec. we’ll see.

Unless “some guy on the internet” is me. I just posted that 300,000 users can decode an MQA file. That number is optimistic, so they are going after a tiny part of the streaming market. WiiM may want to rethink support for HiFi Plus tier.

 

[Ralph_Cramden]

Unless “some guy on the internet” is me. I just posted that 300,000 users can decode an MQA file. That number is optimistic, so they are going after a tiny part of the streaming market. WiiM may want to rethink support for HiFi Plus tier.

I was referring to the launch date post, not MQA...

 

[Steve H]

I was referring to the launch date post, not MQA...

It’s never too soon to stop wasting money supporting Tidal Music. They have stopped growing according to Block Inc and their gross profit is deteriorating.

 

[Ralph_Cramden]

Email just now from WiiM:

WiiM Pro will be sold on Amazon towards the end of November to early December timeframe. As the launch date gets closer, we'll send out another newsletter with Amazon links by the countries it's available to purchase in

 

[Ralph_Cramden]

Quick comparison: Sonos Connect, KEiiD, Wiim Mini, all tests done at 16/44.1kHz, optical out.

pi@pitestrig:~/fft $ python3 thdcalculator.py in/sonos_connect.wav 1000 1 5
filename = in/sonos_connect.wav
freq = 1000, t1 = 1, t2 = 5
frame rate = 44100, channel = 2
shape = (2, 253952), dim = 253952, sample_rate = 44100 channels = 2
track length = 5.76 seconds
low_freq = 10.0, max_freq = 1000.0
low_freq = 10.0, max_freq = 1000.0
channel 1: thd = 0.00007 %
channel 2: thd = 0.00007 %

pi@pitestrig:~/fft $ python3 thdcalculator.py in/KEiiD.wav 1000 1 5
filename = in/KEiiD.wav
freq = 1000, t1 = 1, t2 = 5
frame rate = 44100, channel = 2
shape = (2, 241664), dim = 241664, sample_rate = 44100 channels = 2
track length = 5.48 seconds
low_freq = 10.0, max_freq = 1000.0
low_freq = 10.0, max_freq = 1000.0
channel 1: thd = 0.00092 %
channel 2: thd = 0.00092 %

pi@pitestrig:~/fft $ python3 thdcalculator.py in/wiim_no_eq.wav 1000 1 5
filename = in/wiim_no_eq.wav
freq = 1000, t1 = 1, t2 = 5
frame rate = 44100, channel = 2
shape = (2, 245760), dim = 245760, sample_rate = 44100 channels = 2
track length = 5.57 seconds
low_freq = 10.0, max_freq = 1000.0
low_freq = 10.0, max_freq = 1000.0
channel 1: thd = 0.00006 %
channel 2: thd = 0.00006 %
pi@pitestrig:~/fft $