It's 'cos they glow in the darkbeats me.
It's 'cos they glow in the darkbeats me.
That's called distortion.like the added thickness of the sound, texture, slight frequency changes.
Certainly hope not. The clue is in the name, no? "Audio SCIENCE"Er...this is an audiophile forum?
All the music you listen to in your lounge is a distortion, it's not real, its false, pick the false you like.That's called distortion.
We where discussing a analogy that you whipped up in your kitchen. Otherwise if you like distortion added to the source fly at it but you are adding and taking away from the original.And who says that everybody actually likes linearity? All recorded music and its playback is false, you choose which false you like. No equipment in your lounge is remotely like a live recording or even the music in the studio, which is recorded expressly for reproduction. You are rationalising an illusion with measurement. There are two sorts of audiophiles, those that listen to the equipment and those that listen to the music.
OK. No problemo. I had a similar chat the other day with a long term member of ASR and we agreed that if somebody likes extra shimmer on the cymbals induced by a tube amp distortion then that is what the heart wants.So, you mentioned distortion and linearity, I'm replying.
Yes, sure, preference rules. But measurements are good for finding out which equipment distorts less - or more - or how it distorts.And who says that everybody actually likes linearity? All recorded music and its playback is false, you choose which false you like. No equipment in your lounge is remotely like a live recording or even the music in the studio, which is recorded expressly for reproduction. You are rationalising an illusion with measurement. There are two sorts of audiophiles, those that listen to the equipment and those that listen to the music.
Yes, and using an amp or other component for tone control is a very ineffective/inefficient way to go about making a audio system. Better to use the parametric equalizer for spice and keep the components neutral sounding and without adding or taking something away.Yes, sure, preference rules. But measurements are good for finding out which equipment distorts less.
And it also turns out that when you do experiments, people consistently find certain types of distortion worse than others.
You can get pretty close to what is heard in the studio if you work at it.
But when I go to a concert it's almost certain the guitars will be using valve amplification, so which is nearer to live in my lounge, SS or Tubes?OK. No problemo. I had a similar chat the other day with a long term member of ASR and we agreed that if somebody likes extra shimmer on the cymbals induced by a tube amp distortion then that is what the heart wants.
It depends on the amp. Tube amps can be linear from input to output just like transistorized amps can be. Then there are tube amps with output impedance issues that color the sound and remove and add stuff. So even tube amps can be as clean as a transistorized amp.But when I go to a concert it's almost certain the guitars will be using valve amplification, so which is nearer to live in my lounge, SS or Tubes?
Certainly hope not. The clue is in the name, no? "Audio SCIENCE"
LMAO... Changing ASR one member at a time. gg*And it is filled with audiophiles.
I mean, of course you can call yourself or not call yourself whatever you want.
But if you hang out in a forum like this devoted to audio gear, that’s a sign that you are an audiophile in the
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And who says that everybody actually likes linearity? All recorded music and its playback is false, you choose which false you like. No equipment in your lounge is remotely like a live recording or even the music in the studio, which is recorded expressly for reproduction. You are rationalising an illusion with measurement. There are two sorts of audiophiles, those that listen to the equipment and those that listen to the music.
This is a bit like asking whether salt or pepper makes lettuce taste more like steak. Live sound is typically nothing like the mix on a record, and even if the record is mixed to sound live (some are, most aren't), your vastly bigger concern is what type of speaker to use, not what type of amp.But when I go to a concert it's almost certain the guitars will be using valve amplification, so which is nearer to live in my lounge, SS or Tubes?
Actually, that is exactly what’s done in the food business. No product is released without extensive and rigorous sensory testing.Amplifiers can be metered down to parts per million and a bunch of other factors that indicate the integrity of the linearity of the input to the output. I don't see food tested scientifically to any degree like that. You are using a very simplistic analogy that does not fit in any way shape or form objectively.
Good point - troll food deleted.Guys, why are you engaging a rather stupid and unimaginative troll? Don’t feed, the supply of banality just multiplies.
True or not, properly controlled or not, it is still just distortion.I have SS, Tube and Hybrid amplifiers. No question which one everybody who listens prefers.