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Why do you think a few members have an 'alcoholic anonymous' vibe towards the audiophile community? It seems a harmless hobby as far as things go?

More fool them I say.
In some cases. But gambling addiction is just as much an illness as drug or alcohol addiction. And whatever the case the families driven into penury are victims.
 
In some cases. But gambling addiction is just as much an illness as drug or alcohol addiction. And whatever the case the families driven into penury are victims.
Or porn addiction, seems to be a growing problem in a few ways....
 
Or porn addiction, seems to be a growing problem in a few ways...
Addiction is addiction, it's as simple as that. Anything that caused a problem in anyone's life that they keep repeating and can't stop is an addiction.

Video games, gamming, and cell phones are just as bad a opioid addiction in this country. NA teaches about addiction NOT the actual drug of choice.

AA kind of leaves that out. Its funny most meetings coffee, cigarettes and cell phones are worse than smokin' crack in my opinion. They will walk right out
in front of a car just jabbering away as if they are in complete control of being on planet Uranus.

Drugs and drinking (same thing) have never been the problem, addiction is.

I had a boss that was a full blown trava-holics. He wouldn't pay parts bills so he could travel. He owed over 2 million when I quit working for him. He
would never smoke or drink but he sure would spend other peoples money so he could travel. He was one sick puppy.

Some people can't shut up. That's pretty high on my walk away list too. They remind me of a yappin' dog. STFU. LOL

Regards
 
Or porn addiction, seems to be a growing problem in a few ways....

Looks like it may be for the North Korean troops who are getting less fettered Internet access for the first time:

 
Looks like it may be for the North Korean troops who are getting less fettered Internet access for the first time:

I don't know about that report. OTOH, who knows what might qualify as porn to North Koreans. It might not be what we'd call porn.
 
I don't know about that report. OTOH, who knows what might qualify as porn to North Koreans. It might not be what we'd call porn.
It would be whatever Russia calls porn that they are getting???
Even if it is "Soft Porn" it would be quite a bit more than what they would get in N. Korea!
 
Addiction is addiction, it's as simple as that. Anything that caused a problem in anyone's life that they keep repeating and can't stop is an addiction.

Video games, gamming, and cell phones are just as bad a opioid addiction in this country. NA teaches about addiction NOT the actual drug of choice.

AA kind of leaves that out. Its funny most meetings coffee, cigarettes and cell phones are worse than smokin' crack in my opinion. They will walk right out
in front of a car just jabbering away as if they are in complete control of being on planet Uranus.

Drugs and drinking (same thing) have never been the problem, addiction is.

I had a boss that was a full blown trava-holics. He wouldn't pay parts bills so he could travel. He owed over 2 million when I quit working for him. He
would never smoke or drink but he sure would spend other peoples money so he could travel. He was one sick puppy.

Some people can't shut up. That's pretty high on my walk away list too. They remind me of a yappin' dog. STFU. LOL

Regards
Some people must have been vaccinated with a phonograph needle; they just can't stop talking, even when there is non one paying any attention to them.
 
I haven't caught up on all the above, but, as they say, "there's nothing worse than a recovering alcoholic/former smoker". With respect to 'audiophoolery', this place is full of 'em, myself included.
 
Addiction is addiction, it's as simple as that. Anything that caused a problem in anyone's life that they keep repeating and can't stop is an addiction.

Video games, gamming, and cell phones are just as bad a opioid addiction in this country. NA teaches about addiction NOT the actual drug of choice.

There's a lot of emergency room personnel who would strongly disagree.
 
There's a lot of emergency room personnel who would strongly disagree.
That's how interpret the tolerance in NA Meetings of coffee and maybe cigarettes (where legal, I assume); there are degrees and practical considerations. Sure, someone can suffer a lot, from let's say, Pr0n addiction. But opioids? Yeah there are degrees, specially from the point of view of urgency and immediate consequences.

It's so sad that Narcan is such a blessing.
 
My mom had an alcohol and opioids addiction but quit around 70 yrs of age. The residual physical damage was persistent and significant until she died, rendering her bedridden (nerve retreat in her feet made it impossible to bear weight without breaking them). She lived a long time for that addiction, but boy did it ruin her dotage.
 
My mom had an alcohol and opioids addiction but quit around 70 yrs of age. The residual physical damage was persistent and significant until she died, rendering her bedridden (nerve retreat in her feet made it impossible to bear weight without breaking them). She lived a long time for that addiction, but boy did it ruin her dotage.

A "like" does not convey feelings - sorry to hear about that.
 
There's a lot of emergency room personnel who would strongly disagree.
Cell Phone addiction certainly cause car accidents, people walking into open manhole's even when they are marked off by posts & tape and other crazily stupid things that can cause serious injuries or death. And sometimes do. You might be amazed if you look into it.
(Most of the problems with this one would not manifest themselves if the person with it did not go out and about).
 
Upper class people have money to burn; very expensive gear is for people who need to show off how much they have. Huge mansions need huge sound systems. The underlying problem is some people have more money than they really deserve. We all know what happens when we spoil kids or ourselves, they and we become accustomed to it. Appreciation is earned by effort alone. When people are entitled, they don't really appreciate what they have, so they must have more because there is always something 'more' to appreciate. Indeed, it's an endless quest for more and more. If enough was ever enough, they'd have stopped long ago. So you see, there's a market, and where there's a market, others, desperate for money, will rush to fill it. On the other hand there is high quality gear and excellent design, neither comes cheap.
 
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