Maybe, starting point alone doesn't mean much.There is some indication of potential numbers given away in the serial numbers sequencing.
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Maybe, starting point alone doesn't mean much.There is some indication of potential numbers given away in the serial numbers sequencing.
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I infer that there could be up to 4000 of Ver2. So if that is reasonable then they must be in rare quantity.Maybe, starting point alone doesn't mean much.
I read it more that the original series had SNs starting with 10000 but nothing beyond that. The later version having SNs starting with 6000 I took to mean they didn't expect to make more than 4000 of them....but again no indication of actual production. Hard to know....I infer that there could be up to 4000 of Ver2. So if that is reasonable then they must be in rare quantity.
I searched Canuck Audio mart and Kijiji and I found 2 pair of Apogee panels for sale. That's basically all of Canada unless you are not connected and strapped into the net.I read it more that the original series had SNs starting with 10000 but nothing beyond that. The later version having SNs starting with 6000 I took to mean they didn't expect to make more than 4000 of them....but again no indication of actual production. Hard to know....
I figure there aren't likely a whole bunch that have survived this long in any case. Just curious....I searched Canuck Audio mart and Kijiji and I found 2 pair of Apogee panels for sale. That's basically all of Canada unless you are not connected and strapped into the net.
Well. One Dood wanted about $3500 and the other $2800 in Canadian funds for a pair. One guy complained about a slight rattle at elevated volume levels. I read that the drivers last but the adhesive strip between the driver and the surround breaks down and requires replacement.I figure there aren't likely a whole bunch that have survived this long in any case. Just curious....
Curious if the ribbons were robust, too. A weakness with the similar looking Carver Amazing speakers I had....Well. One Dood wanted about $3500 and the other $2800 in Canadian funds for a pair. One guy complained about a slight rattle at elevated volume levels. I read that the drivers last but the adhesive strip between the driver and the surround breaks down and requires replacement.
Curious if the ribbons were robust, too. A weakness with the similar looking Carver Amazing speakers I had....
Where is the spec for BTU's ?
Joshua often talks about how well amps and DACs measures. Seems like he looks at ASR, but then magically forget things about proper testing when it’s time to suggest expensive pieces of equipment. Otherwise how can you say to hear differences between the two Topping amps with a straight face?I commend him on trying. The problem is that he (the father) alternated every single time, never going out of his alternating order. He needed to pull it and re-plug it into the same one a few times to mix it up. The test is basically invalid as the father was helping and just didn't really know what to do except change it when his son told him too. Great attempt, it just needed a bit more to make it "in the home valid". I will not tear it apart but leave it as a botched attempt. But, if he does it again with some minimal advice from me (I try to be helpful) he will get the answer he seeks. He now thinks the results are fantastic and that as he stated, "he is not crazy". If I helped him doing maybe two or three things different he would have seen that he could not reliably tell the difference. Oh well.
I will agree with that. In terms of a pure, clean sound that throws off very little heat, the best amp I own is my topping pa3s. I have prettier amps, but none better.no inherent advantage in practical terms for a class A.
In fact, smaller and cooler means better to build active speakers and in general, friendlier to work with.I will agree with that. In terms of a pure, clean sound that throws off very little heat, the best amp I own is my topping pa3s. I have prettier amps, but none better.
We used Energy Pro22, Energy Reference 22 and the KEF 104.2 and did a listen both in the repair shop and at home because 2 of us techs bought and used the same class A amps at home. The Pro22 and the Reference 22 are revealing speakers in that they sound good with a average amp but if using a really good amp they perk up and come alive. I wish I still had the class A amp in mind because with all the excitement in the magazines of the time, all the listener tests and my own tests showed that it is a very smooth amp. Almost tube like. I suspect the amp is colored but if it is they did a wonderful job of smoothing things out and making it a high power class A.
I had a pair of Pro 22's that I bought in 1988 and I ended up putting them into a dumpster when I moved 18 months ago. I think one of the tweeters only needed ferro-fluid but I had no more room in my U Haul so I left them behind.I could not resist replying to this, about the only reference to the Energy 22 on the forum.
I had a pair of Pro 22's that I bought in 1988 and I ended up putting them into a dumpster when I moved 18 months ago. I think one of the tweeters only needed ferro-fluid but I had no more room in my U Haul so I left them behind.
Yeah, I used to dream about getting the Reference series. They served me faithfully for many decades. I actually blew a tweeter back in the late 80s and Energy sent me a replacement.Good thing they weren’t the floor stander Ref Conns…the Pro Monitors you get a pass—I recently did the same after pulling the drivers from a pair for spares.
Yeah, I used to dream about getting the Reference series. They served me faithfully for many decades. I actually blew a tweeter back in the late 80s and Emergy sent me a replacement.